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From: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: use-package
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 15:56:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFyQvY2BcOe5PY731j3iSrpX7=1TZEEgcd9F3inVWxa=-muXZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0b3927f-9e76-4b6b-8e21-678ad67b8dc5@default>

>
> > >> For example, diminishing minor modes -- I think we have overloaded the
> > >> functionality of minor modes; many (company say, or eldoc) you either
> > >> want on or off. Do I really need mode-line space to be taken up
> telling
> > >> me that company is one? And is the mode-line the only place we can
> > >> display this information?
> > >
> > > There are of course ways (e.g. packages) to reduce the mode-line
> > > indications.  But I think it might be good if vanilla Emacs provided
> > > a simple way for a user to not display particular lighters (mode
> > > indications in the mode-line).
> >
> > I don't think this is the right solution. Asking the user to choose
> > which lighters to hide is just passing the buck.
>

I also have a same opinion as Drew. Hiding minor mode lighters is very
subjective. You might find a particular mode lighter as useless but someone
else might be wanting that. So I would also leave it up to the users on
which lighters they want to hide.

Why might a user want to show the lighter for a global minor
> mode?  Some minor modes you will turn on and off, perhaps
> even frequently.  For some of those you might well want to
> know whether it is on or off.
>
> This is no different than for a local minor mode, such as
> overwrite mode.  You might well want to know whether a
> particular mode is on.
>
> It can depend on the mode and on the user.  There is no
> one-size-fits-all, IMHO.  And that is true of global modes
> as well as local ones.
>

+1

A library can of course choose not to have a lighter for some
> mode (local or global).  But in the end, users too need to be
> able to easily adjust things to suit their tastes and needs.
>

The rich-minority package in GNU Elpa (
https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/rich-minority.html ) is basically this:
Allows the user to hide the lighters they want AND also modify them to
their liking.

I do not like the extra spacing between the lighters and I choose each
lighter to be just one character (regular or unicode) (or 2 at max).

So I have this ( http://i.imgur.com/bHmMU1N.png ) using rich-minority.

(use-package rich-minority
  :config
  (progn
    (setq rm-blacklist
          '(" WK"        ; which-key
            " hc"        ; hardcore mode
            " AC"        ; auto-complete
            " vl"        ; global visual line mode enabled
            " Wrap"      ; shows up if visual-line-mode is enabled for that
buffer
            " Omit"      ; omit mode in dired
            " yas"       ; yasnippet
            " drag"      ; drag-stuff-mode
            " VHl"       ; volatile highlights
            " ctagsU"    ; ctags update
            " Undo-Tree" ; undo tree
            " wr"        ; Wrap Region
            " SliNav"    ; elisp-slime-nav
            " Fly"       ; Flycheck
            " PgLn"      ; page-line-break
            " ElDoc"     ; eldoc
            " GG"        ; ggtags
            " hs"        ; hideshow
            " hs+"       ;
            " ez-esc"    ; easy-escape
            " ivy"       ; ivy
            " h"         ; hungry-delete-mode
            ))
    (setq rm-text-properties '(("\\` Ovwrt\\'" 'face
'font-lock-warning-face))) ; default
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Abbrev\\'" 'display "​@")) ;
Abbrev
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Ind\\'"    'display "​*>")) ;
org indent
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Outl\\'"   'display "​ø")) ;
outline
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Server\\'" 'display "​Σ")) ;
Server
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` μ\\'"      'display "​μ")) ;
modi-mode
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Wg\\'"     'display "​w")) ;
writegood
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` =>\\'"     'display "​a")) ;
aggressive indent
    (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Vis\\'"    'display "​V")) ;
visible-mode
    (with-eval-after-load 'setup-symbola
      (if font-symbola-p
          (progn
            (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Tail\\'" 'display
"​🢛")) ; auto revert tail
            (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Temp\\'" 'display
"​𝘵")) ; temp
            (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` rk\\'"   'display
"​▯")) ; region bindings
            (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` (\\*)\\'" 'display
"​💡")) ; beacon
            (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Hi\\'"   'display
"​🞵"))) ; Hi-Lock
        (progn
          (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Tail\\'" 'display
"​Tail|"))
          (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Temp\\'" 'display "​t"))
          (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` rk\\'"   'display "​r"))
          (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` (\\*)\\'" 'display "​*"))
          (add-to-list 'rm-text-properties '("\\` Hi\\'"   'display
"​H")))))))

-- 

-- 
Kaushal Modi


  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-05 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 17:07 use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-02 18:47 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 10:47   ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-03 14:01     ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 22:28       ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-04  3:33         ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 12:09           ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-04 16:22         ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-04 16:44           ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 13:34             ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-05 14:00               ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 15:56                 ` Kaushal Modi [this message]
2016-05-05 16:12                   ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-10  9:20                     ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-10  9:18                   ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-11 11:42                     ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-12 21:04                       ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-13 11:56                         ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-14 22:27                           ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-15  3:22                             ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-13 15:38                         ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-16 15:16                           ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-16 16:49                             ` use-package Drew Adams
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.2761.1463153947.7477.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-05-14  7:37                           ` use-package Rusi
2016-05-10  9:13                 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-05  9:51       ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 13:38         ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-03 22:21 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-05 10:15   ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 23:41     ` use-package Stefan Monnier

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