From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kaushal Modi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#23372: 25.0.93; text-quoting-style missing from manual and from customize Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 21:45:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87wpnlq1xu.fsf@gmail.com> <83lh40287l.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg9rzh3q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011611b4cb2a65053192703e X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461879920 5565 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2016 21:45:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 21:45:20 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , 23372@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 28 23:45:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1avtkN-0007rg-1H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:45:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51149 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avtkM-0006sQ-9O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:45:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avtkG-0006lr-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avtkF-0008Ko-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e]:32823) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avtkF-0008KL-G8; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:45:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id x1so24828477obt.0; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:45:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0qCrwvlfhei9FSGx8O23PDzrN++DbM/QC6oZKj8gTxg=; b=hrP5TpLYXigJR2Rbh1d3vjdnjpDA5uvPeKvIOekDMGQygUDm9+W9QALiL0EUVcXfys Cz3WkWCZ9/4awavYxYybFkE/QqyLtiesRa5krb6sS9SKEjQWmRAcuq9HADtFORFoDDa0 mI9pCgtqAD+gLklnWNVxRV7i7gMlELCTnK74YtZJy6xLJ60D4kZNS8d0gXJ6ptacVwA7 luEFAZvb58WJCTfMYxewjb1hKfemNCnJkYKV7LexKXy5ZHfwtx8AgpNQyxq0NKJzEBsr g4eMRTjgdbTcoxyi4oTD8pB+sT2LRcAXVs70w/mmZg5w9mZlB7Q/Am4qA7BcVofYOIQG A6+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=0qCrwvlfhei9FSGx8O23PDzrN++DbM/QC6oZKj8gTxg=; b=f1LCJfOY8QpMSiuNFWINl6j5UPVBoNUTRRwoQUg1hf1y8KJRd5kyMkkvmkgyhJsR7G JJykJBn1sHfa4yH5huM8T91xRfJSry5ieI9waz743yRfZ/kux96qolfQPedO6/+BWmUn e0lTrq0n9RkS0LVHWvVWwWV5Z5oSde/7iPtnFUCj7ytNj9qDVIokCbZqUgP0PG3L5RxK Rm68s/i0SsZ1Oy1op/pycL9ciKQywOvnOOXBAWGMF3ujOWT7NJCClTdHHMU7L4igDIYn 8dCsKQzTE8Da+sjk6gPNc1MlchfxM5eh6FOOUi2DmTgZZIPTgCKx6w3Sf7uMq/3wU9r7 Y9Zw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUe1ReoWvJ49ACp/jyY8Y+iP/aavObdMkqKYzOtKpwf/zQY1Lb3gn3TAIGzW+WTKOR3c9yyfoW0Q1R6Ug== X-Received: by 10.60.97.40 with SMTP id dx8mr2306297oeb.30.1461879910900; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:45:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203408 Archived-At: --089e011611b4cb2a65053192703e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Do any others object to having a customization option along with release of > the feature? I'm cross-posting this to Emacs-devel to get more opinions. > > The question is: Should `text-quoting-style' be customizable in 25.1, or > should it be a variable, thus requiring Lisp code to change it for now? > If a user's opinion counts, I now like the curved quotes (thanks Paul and others!). The quotes look great! There was initial resistance from my side as I saw a lot of inconsistencies. But by now, all the inconsistencies that at least I saw are resolved. Earlier I wanted to switch back to quotes being displayed as ` and ', but not anymore :). So I do not mind the quotes being displayed curly by default and that option still not being a defcustom. If we see a lot of emacs users unhappy because of this, then may be this is converted to defcustom in 25.2? Because as Eli said: > It is easy to make a variable into a defcustom; the inverse is generally > much harder. -- -- Kaushal Modi --089e011611b4cb2a65053192703e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= Do any others object to having a customization option along with release of=
the feature?=C2=A0 I'm cross-posting this to Emacs-devel to get more op= inions.

The question is: Should `text-quoting-style' be customizable in 25.1, o= r
should it be a variable, thus requiring Lisp code to change it for now?
=

If a user's opinion counts, I now like= the curved quotes (thanks Paul and others!). The quotes look great! There = was initial resistance from my side as I saw a lot of inconsistencies. But = by now, all the inconsistencies that at least I saw are resolved. Earlier I= wanted to switch back to quotes being displayed as ` and ', but not an= ymore :).

So I do not mind the quotes being displa= yed curly by default and that option still not being a defcustom.

If we see a lot of emacs users unhappy because of this, the= n may be this is converted to defcustom in 25.2? Because as Eli said:
=

>= It is easy to make a variable into a defcustom; the inverse is generally
> much harder.
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Kaushal Modi

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