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Hawley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10654: 24.0.93; isearch-yank-line moved from C-y Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:16:06 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327936628 27579 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2012 15:17:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:17:08 +0000 (UTC) To: 10654@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 30 16:17:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrsyf-0002zw-1e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:17:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40975 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrsye-0006b4-90 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:17:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34421) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrsyW-0006av-HH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrsyR-0002BQ-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:16:56 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrsyR-0002BM-Sl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:16:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrsyb-0004Xg-Rb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:17:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Aaron S. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56221 Archived-At: I appreciate the new behavior of M-y in Isearch Mode. I find it more satisfying, and less frustrating, to be able to access the full kill ring. I was surprised that the previously unsatisfying command M-y overwrote the behavior of C-y in Isearch Mode. C-y had held the very useful command of yanking the rest of the line into Isearch. I eat and breathe Diff output and line-oriented source code, so I would use the C-y command often to search similar text or compare text in the buffer or across buffers. I use M-x diff or M-x compare-windows but Isearch Mode can get the job done quicker in some cases. I don't have any data to support that C-y is popular. I won't suggest that the bindings for Isearch Mode are anywhere near sane. I recall I was flummoxed by them at first. The bindings are diabolical for beginners in most ways, but how did I learn them if they weren't coherent? However, the new change is disruptive for existing users of Emacs and after trying it for two weeks, I can confirm that putting `isearch-yank-line' to the `M-s C-e' binding is unsatisfying (M-s C-k makes more sense). Though, without any data maybe I'm the only person who uses it and needs a short key binding? The proposed bindings for 24.1 are: (define-key isearch-mode-map "\C-y" 'isearch-yank-kill) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\M-y" 'isearch-yank-pop) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\M-s\C-e" 'isearch-yank-line) I'd prefer to revert partially to: (define-key isearch-mode-map "\C-y" 'isearch-yank-line) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\M-y" 'isearch-yank-pop) Or keep the proposed new bindings, but at least give a better binding than M-s C-e for the old C-y. How about the shorter (and obvious) key binding of C-k? (define-key isearch-mode-map "\C-y" 'isearch-yank-kill) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\M-y" 'isearch-yank-pop) (define-key isearch-mode-map "\C-k" 'isearch-yank-line) Thanks for Emacs, aaron -- In general, we reserve the right to have a poor memory--the computer, however, is supposed to remember! Poor computer. -- Guy Lewis Steele Jr.