From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thibaut Verron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA-theme? 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255985 Archived-At: > Daniele> If I understand correctly the recent discussions, one of the main goals > Daniele> is to make Emacs more accessible to newcomers. In this respect, are we > Daniele> sure that using the "theme" concept, associated (outside the Emacs > Daniele> world) with customizing how applications looks, to configure the > Daniele> application behavior is a good idea? I couldn't agree more. > Daniele> Reportedly, one of the things that newcomers struggle with is the > Daniele> peculiar and unique jargon used to describe Emacs concepts. This would > Daniele> add one more. I think the concept of "mode" as something that changes > Daniele> application behavior is well established and easier to explain. > > Except you then engender confusion with the Emacs concept of > modes. Only in the sense that it is more restrictive than the Emacs concept. For example, cua-mode, delete-selection-mode and evil-mode are Emacs modes and also application-behavior modes. I don't think there would be a major confusion here, as by the time users see other modes, they would be more used to Emacs terminology. > Perhaps we should call them 'user type profiles' or something, > then we could call them 'new-to-emacs-profile', 'vanilla-profile', etc. That's also fine, but it might create confusion with user profiles, which would typically cover *all* the settings, so that different profiles would have different init files. That actually opens another area for investigation: we could have Emacs support such user profiles and have the configuration screen offer a choice for a "base profile" (some kinds of factory settings).