From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thibaut Verron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7e12c1c3c1aae58993e2@heytings.org> <8ed9b43502da52e07ff5@heytings.org> Reply-To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5639"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Gregory Heytings , Drew Adams , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 12:42:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9ntE-0001O3-5w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:42:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9ntD-0002KH-6p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:42:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9ns7-0001WW-9X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:41:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-xb31.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]:39726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9nrz-0007Mn-V8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 06:41:27 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id k4so1675532ybp.6 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 03:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=qk0g4A7jb30+CZY4WJeoRqNrjvEojsAdjQkCqM6kHh4=; b=tLp3BEk5s/fP//sp2n0yuf0geQg59DQqmR47hYe5U4/GKYB//yWPdTKN00wG2VDhNR RGRJGc4AstVdyOhtNhDyLBEBh/R/kvx8pm7OTkxAjQNPHIIudwpnzxPVIUjHNxe8OaRv PzY43Fhgv8OnIYp816WQ9WQjkf72osOYy2RpHi7JvQVBEMGr23h7mzUeNoBnlwaHy9SU LWpVqica/lesxp81ZQjt/PTJxOIh6f1f8oWU7B8lIOk7Aiwh6uKMBIdE0LDC6RRqkYW2 MtMmhVPXGlZkYEAjMhuVj3erXvdOGV+i+3p6WHDDuWq5v7dgWzrzZc8GFRR+ZlbkcpEK bZZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qk0g4A7jb30+CZY4WJeoRqNrjvEojsAdjQkCqM6kHh4=; b=i1lqkp0VslAn/ATbqiRmCwpFNibrTKJV3JqMlj/I4JgD4mxviN5pd+4FyPsdm67hIF o+NZEH85VLdNVPHxoIlONwLbI/dA7DXVPcPL9tEYWBgFkJu69YwUMWtfeiOeff35mk/0 67dE5E/0LmBz4q6aGvVSHuaKq58meiR6rlKhQidDQRjoG1CEnfEBolPg1VuKwURA63L3 LbsQ3ffOrdhpfUuQrO7EKqQj/F85AgE3A10TyOEnmOnpMld0B4hEqWii2JFPKctWLmoo muK32fSO2+yz9vbL18CG7P/q3xqW71jWNv4EbRUicj68VW4weZX/edGZKYePUjI6EtZz 0XAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531e/c3oTF46/7AvoXBpdzXgjDTn8p7rbvQxtB1RfNOG2eythXwj zA11+kBXRXQL43F3viSODUdFkXrF8oPIoKhSFYU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzXRAFR0QnLx+0bzVTxTuzsIjFveogEe3+ElpkXvO2QkI7KTW4iX4dTd/KdYVYksUScWap1p/fLi1fiX96foYw= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3085:: with SMTP id w127mr3690059ybw.183.1612957277461; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 03:41:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 2002:a05:7110:6187:b029:31:9798:b166 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 03:41:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31; envelope-from=thibaut.verron@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb31.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127769 Archived-At: 2021-02-10 12:33 UTC+01:00, Jean Louis : > * Gregory Heytings [2021-02-09 20:50]: >> >> > >> > FWIW, I disagree with Gregory's proposal, which is a scaled-down >> > version >> > of my proposal, which is to reserve _ALL_ keys currently not bound by >> > default, for 3rd-parties to use. He proposes to reserve only one key >> > for that. >> > >> >> That's not the proposal, that's the way you look at the proposal. The >> proposal is to free one or two keys, and to reserve them for third-party >> libraries. Freeing one or two keys is (would be) an effort from the >> viewpoint of Emacs, which would give more freedom to both Emacs (to use >> the >> other keys as it wishes) and to third-party libraries (to use these keys >> as >> they wish > > Unbound key I found is M-n and there are those like M-[ M and M-] M-n (and its sister M-p) are used for navigating history in a lot of modes.