From: Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, akrl@sdf.org,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
mardani29@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: A modern-mode?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:02:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFsi02RJ-+9=EMMFfcoBnh=KqC2WM673MrKJhGN5__20s2iKvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bli57dug.fsf@gnu.org>
> > Such a name would convey the impression that those settings are for
> > beginners
>
> Which they are.
I disagree. We are not talking about cua-mode or undo-only/redo-only
here. We are talking about full Emacs features which users usually
expect but need to discover. Those settings are for everybody, except
those who know that they don't want them.
> > and that experts prefer not to use them.
>
> How do you get this impression? The name is not
> emacs-beginner-but-not-expert-mode or anything to that effect.
And modern-mode is not modern-and-not-completely-archaic-mode.
But in both cases, by choosing this name, we would state that it is
the best qualificative we could find for all those settings, and to me
it seems to imply that those settings are not for experts (resp.
not-completely-archaic).
I don't think that I'm the only one with this understanding, see for
example the earlier post suggesting the name newbie-mode (synonymous
to beginner-mode for me) with the idea that users would eventually
grow out of this mode, like training wheels. I don't consider any of
the suggested settings to be training wheels.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-16 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-15 14:41 A modern-mode? Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 14:51 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 0:16 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-15 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:34 ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-15 18:36 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 21:08 ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-09-16 4:15 ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-16 7:52 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:31 ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-09-15 15:56 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-15 16:47 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
[not found] ` <a4bc94ca-3130-463a-bd79-3dbffbbce492@default>
2020-09-15 17:11 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 17:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 17:35 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 18:47 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 20:48 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 0:07 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 8:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 9:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 10:39 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 10:47 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:20 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 5:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 7:27 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 7:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 8:36 ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 14:37 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 15:00 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:22 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 10:30 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 11:17 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 14:46 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-16 15:33 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 15:54 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:17 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:32 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 16:30 ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 22:11 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 21:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 15:27 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 4:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 9:54 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-09-18 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 16:45 ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:47 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 18:19 ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-16 18:45 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 20:02 ` Thibaut Verron [this message]
2020-09-16 21:36 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 0:11 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:17 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-17 19:54 ` arthur miller
2020-09-18 4:50 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-17 3:18 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-17 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 8:15 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 7:33 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-16 8:55 ` tomas
2020-09-16 9:36 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 9:48 ` tomas
2020-09-16 9:54 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:20 ` tomas
2020-09-16 10:30 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:53 ` tomas
2020-09-16 11:09 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:40 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 13:04 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:10 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:26 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 15:43 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 15:45 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:20 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 16:42 ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:46 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:28 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:47 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 12:32 ` Arthur Miller
[not found] <<xjfmu1rrtks.fsf@sdf.org>
[not found] ` <<E1kIPmO-0001u5-0m@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-09-16 14:37 ` Drew Adams
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to='CAFsi02RJ-+9=EMMFfcoBnh=KqC2WM673MrKJhGN5__20s2iKvA@mail.gmail.com' \
--to=thibaut.verron@gmail.com \
--cc=akrl@sdf.org \
--cc=eliz@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=mardani29@yahoo.es \
--cc=self@gkayaalp.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.