From: James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode Mailing List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-grep, and problems
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:50:55 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFniQ7WZ_NKOCESr7zKj2295WQ76nsTgzy03qidqe0_ectKUPQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEWDx5ecB6S-oSD7sz-OQoRYScVp+wtw+4YFXa5XHD4MgyoEyw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 15, 2013 2:19 AM, "Jonathan Leech-Pepin" <
jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com> wrote:.
> > I'm voting for "none of the bosses is going to attend."
>
> None is a bit of an odd case, since it reflects the plurality of the
associated noun.
I don't want to drag it out much further as it's well off topic, but... I
did some checking and found (for the most part) that what I said *used* to
be true, but that the usage has been shifting for a good century or two (to
allow "none" to be plural). So I concede that point (and learned something
today, which I like).
From the few grammar sites I checked, it seems that a plural "none" is
definitely accepted in speech and informal writing. One site mentioned that
formal writing may more often call for none to take a singular verb,
regardless of the associated noun. But Facebook, twitter and texting have
basically killed formal writing already, so, soon even that caveat will be
gone.
I did not find any sites claiming that it's mandatory to give "none" a
plural verb if it appears with a plural noun. All of those sites at least
gave lip service to its origin as "not one of" -- e.g. "not one of the
groups is going" -- so my preference for the singular verb is justified,
though not my claim that the other is flat-out incorrect.
Thanks... Glad to learn I can cross that one off my grammar police list.
hjh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-15 4:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-10 15:50 org-grep, and problems François Pinard
2013-10-10 16:54 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-10 18:59 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-11 1:14 ` François Pinard
2013-10-11 7:43 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-14 23:50 ` François Pinard
2013-10-15 9:06 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-16 1:26 ` François Pinard
2013-10-13 21:43 ` R. Michael Weylandt <michael.weylandt@gmail.com>
2013-10-14 13:29 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-14 14:42 ` James Harkins
2013-10-14 18:19 ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2013-10-14 22:17 ` Alan L Tyree
2013-10-15 4:50 ` James Harkins [this message]
2013-10-16 1:15 ` François Pinard
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