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From: James Harkins <jamshark70@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New exporter, beamer confusion
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:32:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFniQ7UL+ucgXaeQi1f1JJ58gUj91fcpSxf+kREM-Tv=DT0xLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehgtmd0q.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Feb 7, 2013 3:57 AM, "Nicolas Goaziou" <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language:
> > "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.")
>
> Obviously, me, as the author of the back-end. Org offers only one slot
> for "strong emphasis". I had to choose between bold and alert, and so
> I did.

Ok, and as long as I can configure it, no problem.

Aside Re: Orwell, and now veering well off-topic, his point about passive
voice is that it hides human agency and, in the worst cases, suggests that
something simply "is objectively so" rather than "one or more people made
it so, for reasons that may be subjective," or deflects responsibility à la
"mistakes were made." Although the relationship to the present topic is
only tangential, Orwell's caution is at least as relevant today as it was
when he wrote it in 1946. I find for myself that following his advice [6 or
7 rules of thumb at the end of his essay] sounds a little alarm bell when
my thinking is getting sloppy -- so I think it bears repeating. (Apologies
to the scientific authors here, who "are trained" [oops!] to erase
themselves from reports on their experimental procedures by using passive
voice consistently...)

In fact, it wasn't obvious to me whether it was simply your preference, or
if an expert or authority on slideshow style recommends \alert over
\textbf. In the latter case, I would want to know who and why, so I could
read and then make up my own mind.

> > "Reasonably" for me would mean tweaking some configuration options and
> > perhaps changing a few minor details of the markup. If you have to
change
> > the org document's structure (e.g., converting headlines to lists), it
> > isn't backward compatible.
>
> Then, by this definition, it isn't, indeed.

Sure, and that's ok. My frustration stemmed from expecting more
compatibility than there actually is. After adjusting my expectations, I
can figure out how to make it work for me.

hjh

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-07  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-09 16:37 org-url-hexify-p is not respected James Harkins
2012-09-10  1:50 ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  4:58   ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-10  6:16     ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  6:37       ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-10  6:48         ` James Harkins
2012-09-10  7:12           ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]             ` <CAFniQ7W_5QMUawD2NObyhy2_Y647as-NthobZ9OgAX4NLcVJBw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-11 10:22               ` James Harkins
2012-09-11 13:10                 ` Activating modules before org-install (was: org-url-hexify-p is not respected) Memnon Anon
2012-09-11 13:56                   ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2012-09-11 17:06                 ` org-url-hexify-p is not respected Charles Philip Chan
2012-09-23 10:05                 ` Bastien
2012-09-26 17:59                   ` Michael Brand
2012-09-26 21:50                     ` Bastien
2012-09-27  6:18                       ` Michael Brand
     [not found]   ` <jamshark70@gmail.com>
2012-08-12  2:55     ` MobileOrg, webdav, correct use of org-mobile-directory? James Harkins
2012-08-12  4:29       ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12  7:12         ` James Harkins
2012-08-12  8:43           ` Bastien
2012-08-12  8:50             ` James Harkins
2012-08-12 13:11           ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-18 23:25             ` Adam Spiers
2012-08-19  1:35               ` Adam Spiers
2012-08-19  5:49                 ` James Harkins
2012-08-20 20:03                 ` Rémi Vanicat
2012-08-19  2:41               ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12 11:38         ` James Harkins
2012-08-12 12:40           ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-12 13:12             ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-29 16:34     ` LaTeX beamer export: relative file links? Nick Dokos
2012-09-30  2:04       ` James Harkins
2013-01-10  3:40     ` <M-S-left/right> changed? Nick Dokos
2013-01-10  9:17       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05  7:21     ` New exporter, beamer confusion Nick Dokos
2013-02-05  9:01       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05 13:20         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-02-05 13:55         ` Nick Dokos
2013-02-05 19:03         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-06  0:11           ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06 18:55             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-06 22:39               ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-07 12:31                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                   ` <37646106030B4CA98C6A7717FBD89D50@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <87vca4jigj.fsf@gmail.com>
2013-02-07 14:49                       ` Vincent Beffara
2013-02-07 14:58                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07 17:08                           ` Rasmus
2013-02-07 21:48                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07 23:38                               ` Rasmus
2013-02-08 21:41                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-08 13:40                   ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06  2:12           ` James Harkins
2013-02-06  4:35             ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-06 12:32             ` Rasmus
2013-02-06 13:12               ` Suvayu Ali
2013-02-06 13:45               ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-02-06 19:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-07  1:32               ` James Harkins [this message]
2013-02-05  9:36       ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-25  6:25     ` How to make the new exporter open PDF using evince? James Harkins
2013-02-25  7:01       ` Mike Gauland
2013-02-25  6:52     ` Nick Dokos
2013-02-25 13:06       ` James Harkins
2013-02-26  2:40         ` Martin Marier
2013-02-27  9:51           ` James Harkins
     [not found] <CAFniQ7UgwaQ5jO2r7iJ7PbakWfpvsJGZw2FNNf+sawwvKqSUqQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-29  5:55 ` LaTeX beamer export: relative file links? James Harkins
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-10  2:38 <M-S-left/right> changed? James Harkins
2013-02-04  4:00 New exporter, beamer confusion James Harkins
2013-02-04  6:39 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-02-04  8:55   ` James Harkins
2013-02-04 19:51     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-05  0:09       ` James Harkins
2013-02-05 12:32       ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-05 18:06         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-05 23:49           ` Eric S Fraga

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