From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Fabrice Popineau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows installer Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87po99qzbn.fsf@russet.org.uk> <1509955878.550800.1162811960.541B525D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87h8u6bae3.fsf@russet.org.uk> <1510126271.1965593.1165373624.0601E5CF@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8760aijcek.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f40304378874022c8f055da7aed8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510349656 2277 195.159.176.226 (10 Nov 2017 21:34:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Jostein_Kj=C3=B8nigsen?= , Emacs developers , =?UTF-8?Q?Jostein_Kj=C3=B8nigsen?= , Phillip Lord To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 10 22:34:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eDGwA-0000B1-FP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:34:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDGwH-0003Wn-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDGwB-0003Wg-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:34:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDGwA-0005ue-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qt0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::235]:50309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDGw8-0005u6-SL; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 16:34:04 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qt0-x235.google.com with SMTP id d9so13475168qtd.7; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:34:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ca/P4A1pcet6albUJwIZMZ8yvBomgZzeuXDvb99B+IE=; b=pTz/7I+Jxmv/Hti6Ex9n6ISdVk0MnQPja6tZpF52SB4y0gUoJpBj6m9ZFHXc/yfXHh LRxh4RJiLZJISOSMIu9D87zKCv1y/fFtV3/2+yKxvHhyZcTuFOLyUtFEb8BSL2liw8Bh UdZ38d41YhU7Hb6I6d99alncW47kOJwikgPTOz26j+aQVD86pXJnZQLsR9zX0qldg6bI 0cLZjxcRzHnjNY+SGhUE18g3gd5bfxfIUezGx4AHGNRzZArx6tAHMWVaw7grs89tg1dl bKuCTOZzltt+BFYEXlTNUnneOzwtIfBLKDQfhn0+++0v+P8JhOgkQ/go4NFkWmErAL9g NlWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ca/P4A1pcet6albUJwIZMZ8yvBomgZzeuXDvb99B+IE=; b=oPQJ0MKqFVy8L+GP9l4QfOqxdN0+oy7eTM4kJGCwoHVz3H+jpkTa8WSUWudHGzqF1c qLgP/1Ol23/N91OIRznIE8PnhShzGk0ddpTa0sZOwbTLkchNMmguMRIttZ9abI0V49Ob ZtEIBOKqbf16rPQQ3mK7Y+crrF3OSKTSWiZsVBkH+L/gUNeam9UmEcylSZNJPFdG3GGf 8esnuSRETj26dO1UOw+670Xs+Lkr2VIfkyLZHsvTFtZkMYaEVPNYr0lI31FD+QSSeWcm 27flXQ/g84RcHIIS/YPE1JPOy4qOYl52pVl8y44pBxfapyyxuI43kbMCGNZ4Dd+nqf0+ qI2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX59Y0utNCGmSZQnWQS8erMzMqTSmsmqxXQ2uEisKASvD6QxNdj2 DENIHkP5GmTtDq/qXBVaE59MgDBRur5jWnjQFeU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbu7/Ia5PzXxLLShlGGbWEjs3/JbeUWkvAvYIqLyCm21riczDW7Xwc8I6VdKjvOtyrq9MHKrH52dBmmD6Hzwig= X-Received: by 10.200.4.37 with SMTP id v37mr2909203qtg.313.1510349643851; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:34:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.140.89.242 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:33:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220040 Archived-At: --f40304378874022c8f055da7aed8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-11-10 19:52 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii : > > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:01:39 +0000 > > Cc: jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > > I suggest we instead use the user's profile folder. From an initial > > > probe, this can be found in at least the following > > > environment-variables on my Windows 10 test-machine: USERPROFILE (or > > > by concatenating HOMEDRIVE and HOMEPATH ). > > > > I'll fix this. > > Just to make this more complex: the Windows platform conventions frown > upon installing stuff in that directory; you are supposed to create a > subdirectory and install there. > > And programs should not end up there, they should be under > %ProgramFiles% instead. The user's directory is for files, not for > programs. > That are the recommendations, yes. But I have never installed stuff like Emacs or TeX (or others) in %ProgramFiles%. And neither Cygwin or MSYS2 install in this directory. You are still free to install stuff in c:\Gnu is you chose to do so. Fabrice --f40304378874022c8f055da7aed8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-11-10 19:52 GMT+01:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
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> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:01:39 +0000
> Cc: jostein@kjonigsen.net= , emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> >=C2=A0 I suggest we instead use the user's profile folder. Fro= m an initial
> >=C2=A0 probe, this can be found in at least the following
> >=C2=A0 environment-variables on my Windows 10 test-machine: USERPR= OFILE (or
> >=C2=A0 by concatenating HOMEDRIVE and HOMEPATH ).
>
> I'll fix this.

Just to make this more complex: the Windows platform conventions fro= wn
upon installing stuff in that directory; you are supposed to create a
subdirectory and install there.

And programs should not end up there, they should be under
%ProgramFiles% instead.=C2=A0 The user's directory is for files, not fo= r
programs.

That are the recommendations,= yes. But I have never installed stuff like Emacs or TeX (or others)
<= div>in %ProgramFiles%.
And neither Cygwin or MSYS2 install in thi= s directory.
You are still free to install stuff in c:\Gnu is you= chose to do so.

Fabrice
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