From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Fabrice Popineau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Oldest Emacs alive Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:52:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7wzhzcm8u8.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <147d88c2-6e1b-3546-25b3-e35b9ac21b01@cs.ucla.edu> <7w7emgm2wx.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <87a7rbid4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d60919057001271a" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1530525032 16548 195.159.176.226 (2 Jul 2018 09:50:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Filipp Gunbin Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 11:50:28 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvTX-0004Da-JF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:50:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvVe-0005zs-Tz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54333) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvVX-0005zX-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:52:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvVW-0008Oy-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::229]:33896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fZvVW-0008O9-KP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr0-x229.google.com with SMTP id a12-v6so14866248wro.1 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 02:52:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EzzrIRTBM/P7/jm8hFsF7KEhVBZAt1Gcy6G+GYUy5J4=; b=HB72Zo2kiYMdfrAFNWGnsJwZFZtNMNltnc+XBPtXRtzCUSGPKlkQ/ZtIW/fB9oMRr4 CnJMipw6/P/pcSDlr0oM2GC+tUW9YUy6JM39YqK+vs8SwGcgwKQb179CB+IYcmwo1GZP 9zcVFLJxHBJY3XivwLFUovf2gE+GPZ8JBISRUkwO1n2nSVbKBYlWVzFmliN3yk2EZlrW ERJzrnNawxfTGO92PHsBPp4LgXEr+UBS7Tbrbjs55OBdmdAvPuqK11bOUqkKLRB5DCT4 XRORKOeb2Smc/1ZMqDwPU7Tg9l2J2kEYD009Gk3R62bMXy46RWXplM3iy8ioXI9CbTKy BoWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EzzrIRTBM/P7/jm8hFsF7KEhVBZAt1Gcy6G+GYUy5J4=; b=H7RtHMCwH0UlJ0o+Ykp7kH3pwHhsi6jkAI+Y4H1BRWISzVPNPSN3WKXxsHxawuR5sA /Jhk7wU+vxYXFO7y8t+af/KlK1rDQKSeJnhtxhyT8STIX9+uOMBpjskypHdC6jQm4WaQ VqBnAsj89DzyMhRZrZRz0v0nOA4pw1ZLnJ889UDNzwAjkQffr/pcOZEP85Skj0kPRLln yFOEd6Y6ID4Vlaq0oyVXgNFTWJqeGVS6IUss+IYWEpe3frvU3mvZWZekwn2xBxEy5wGK Nz1WuQ61fXZBN2NZSWMbH8fQ7NaNMM5aTS0IsscR+JU32T2uRQ9LXYKXC/3toStr22BL kujw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0PeLOcbwgc9UQ0iVTmgKoy5unq4+m0FE3mPXKkyVOSfkLmT/2g epqb7oHV5tlo+Ib3JOpR6lL+JfA7E7ocwqp6Fx87Tw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpf/zJ/hZRLoa2NOoP6IAO31AGaWDEfOrzfAZcvWMgDIEus3H4yw6i5lQjogKNeWz2tHPER9DqHG84m04UWeu4k= X-Received: by 2002:adf:bc92:: with SMTP id g18-v6mr3205748wrh.266.1530525149161; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 02:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 2002:a1c:8949:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 02:52:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226886 Archived-At: --000000000000d60919057001271a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2018-07-02 3:31 GMT+02:00 Filipp Gunbin : > On 01/07/2018 10:17 +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote: > > > 1. The dates for XEmacs should be, at least, 1994-2015. That was the > > year (I think it was October when Steve Turnbull proposed to > > close the project). I am however not sure about 1994, according > > to my memory it should be 1992. > > > > 2. Aidan Kehoe continues to send patches to xemacs-beta and releases > > xemacs 21.5. So you maybe you should talk to him whether Xemacs > > is really dead or not. Maybe this concerns only the 21.4.X > > series. > > I wonder if there are any good technical ideas/solutions which were done > in XEmacs and could be added in GNU Emacs.. That would require, of > course, good knowledge of both. > Maybe this : https://crestani.de/xemacs/pdf/thesis-newgc.pdf How does it compare to the current GNU EMacs GC ? Fabrice --000000000000d60919057001271a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2018-07-02 3:31 GMT+02:00 Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm&g= t;:
On 01= /07/2018 10:17 +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01. The dates for XEmacs should be, at least, 1994-2= 015. That was the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 year (I think it was October when Steve Tur= nbull proposed to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 close the project). I am however not sure a= bout 1994, according
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to my memory it should be 1992.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02. Aidan Kehoe continues to send patches to xemacs-= beta and releases
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 xemacs 21.5. So you maybe you should talk t= o him whether Xemacs
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 is really dead or not. Maybe this concerns = only the 21.4.X
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 series.

I wonder if there are any good technical ideas/solutions which were = done
in XEmacs and could be added in GNU Emacs..=C2=A0 That would require, of course, good knowledge of both.

Maybe t= his :


How does it compare to the current= GNU EMacs GC ?

Fabrice
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