From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aaron Zeng Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47063: 27.1; Tramp customizations overridden by tramp-loaddefs.el Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zgz9ssj4.fsf@gmx.de> <87v99xsji8.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3576"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 47063@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 11 18:25:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lKP4H-0000o2-0q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 18:25:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKP4G-0003jq-2y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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That still seems like a bug, though. Customizations are supposed to be applied even if the corresponding package isn't yet loaded. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:11 PM Michael Albinus wrote: > > Aaron Zeng writes: > > > Hi Michael, > > Hi Aaron, > > > Are you suggesting that I should add that to my .emacs? Or do you > > mean that I am inadvertently loading tramp.el somewhere in my .emacs? > > I recommend the former. > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > Best regards, Michael.