Horizontal scroll bars

Horizontal scroll bars

[Tom Browder]

I want horizontal scroll bars on my Debian 8 emacs (loaded as a deb
package). I tried this in my init.el file:

;;============
(load "scroll-bar")
(add-to-list 'initial-frame-alist
    '(horizontal-scroll-bars . t)
    )
;;============

and get nothing.

I've tried:

M-x horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p

and get no [no-match]

Do I have to build emacs from source to get it?

Thanks.

Best regards,

-Tom

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Óscar Fuentes]

Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> writes:

> I want horizontal scroll bars on my Debian 8 emacs (loaded as a deb
> package). I tried this in my init.el file:
>
> ;;============
> (load "scroll-bar")
> (add-to-list 'initial-frame-alist
>     '(horizontal-scroll-bars . t)
>     )
> ;;============
>
> and get nothing.

Try

M-x horizontal-scroll-bar-mode

> I've tried:
>
> M-x horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p
>
> and get no [no-match]

That function is not interactive. You need to evaluate

(horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p)

to see its result.

> Do I have to build emacs from source to get it?

Possibly. horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p returns nil on my build
configured with

--without-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-x-toolkit=lucid

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Tom Browder]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> wrote:
> Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I want horizontal scroll bars on my Debian 8 emacs (loaded as a deb
>> package). I tried this in my init.el file:
...
>> Do I have to build emacs from source to get it?
>
> Possibly. horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p returns nil on my build
> configured with
>
> --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-x-toolkit=lucid

Okay, I've built emacs 25.1 but still no horizontal scroll bars.

Here is my configuration:

    --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
    --without-dbus         \
    --without-gconf        \
    --without-gsettings    \
    --without-sound

With

Mx (horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p)

I still get no match!

Any ideas?

Thanks.

-Tom

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Óscar Fuentes]

Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> writes:

> Okay, I've built emacs 25.1 but still no horizontal scroll bars.

Do you mean that M-x horizontal-scroll-bar-mode didn't work?

> Here is my configuration:
>
>     --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
>     --without-dbus         \
>     --without-gconf        \
>     --without-gsettings    \
>     --without-sound
>
> With
>
> Mx (horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p)
>
> I still get no match!

As mentioned on my previous reply,
`horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p' is not an interactive function. It
doesn't work from the M-x interface. You need to evaluate it. For
instance, switch to the *scratch* buffer, paste

(horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p)

put the cursor after the last paren and press C-x C-e

> Any ideas?

Maybe you need to build with GTK (which IIRC is the default when you
have the GTK development libraries installed.) On an empty build
directory, try invoking `path/to/emacs/source/configure' without
parameters and see if the summary mentions GTK. If yes, just complete
the build by running `make'.

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 13:18:31 -0600
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> With
> 
> Mx (horizontal-scroll-bars-available-p)
> 
> I still get no match!

Not "Mx", "M-:".

Also, what does this display:

  M-: (boundp 'x-toolkit-scroll-bars) RET

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:01:06 -0600
> 
> I want horizontal scroll bars on my Debian 8 emacs (loaded as a deb
> package). I tried this in my init.el file:
> 
> ;;============
> (load "scroll-bar")
> (add-to-list 'initial-frame-alist
>     '(horizontal-scroll-bars . t)
>     )
> ;;============
> 
> and get nothing.

Does "M-x customize-option RET horizontal-scroll-bar-mode RET" work?
If not, what is your Emacs version?

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Tom Browder]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:01:06 -0600
>>
>> I want horizontal scroll bars on my Debian 8 emacs (loaded as a deb
>> package). I tried this in my init.el file:
...
>> and get nothing.
>
> Does "M-x customize-option RET horizontal-scroll-bar-mode RET" work?
> If not, what is your Emacs version?

No, it does not.

See next reply.

Thanks.

-Tom

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 12:53:09 -0600
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> See next reply.

I don't see any.

Re: Horizontal scroll bars

[martin rudalics]

 > --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-x-toolkit=lucid

 From NEWS:

*** Emacs can now draw horizontal scroll bars on some platforms that
provide toolkit scroll bars, namely Gtk+, Lucid, Motif and Windows.

So you have to build with toolkit scroll bars.

martin

Re: Horizontal Scroll bars

[David Kastrup]

Fabrizio Sidoli <fs@star.ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> I do hope someone can help me. I was wondering if it was possible to
> add a horizontal scroll bar to my emacs window? There does not appear
> to be an obvious option that I can see. I know Xemacs has this
> functionality. Is there a way to do this in emacs also?

No.  You can make do with C-x < and C-x > (or C-prior C-next) in the
meanwhile.

-- 
David Kastrup

Horizontal Scroll bars

[Fabrizio Sidoli]

Hi,

I do hope someone can help me. I was wondering if it was possible to add a 
horizontal scroll bar to my emacs window? There does not appear to be an 
obvious option that I can see. I know Xemacs has this functionality. Is 
there a way to do this in emacs also?

Regards,

Fabrizio