> In the discussion that you cite at the beginning of this bug report, > I suggested a different approach to finding out the culprit, by > using the redisplay tracing facility. Can you try that and post the > results? It might give better clues. Though I can't reproduce it at will, I do have a trace-redisplay from when I saw the bug in a Java file. Specifically, I saw point move inappropriately, but redisplay didn't need to scroll. It's attached in case you find it useful.