From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry OReilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:49:43 -0800 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdcaa86346a41050eb14301 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423529397 7684 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 00:49:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:49:57 +0000 (UTC) To: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ohwoeowho@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 01:49:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YKz1Y-00021A-IK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:49:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKz1X-0001bl-N4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:49:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKz1S-0001bV-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:49:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKz1N-0002M6-G9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:49:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]:35382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKz1M-0002Lo-2j; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id s11so335810qcv.8; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t1RB8rdvWpypRZrAqc2MIyptgHDe5mfYE0jgUx5dY4Q=; b=j1rvt783ih4u8lq0iaKruu4WbYlO6MmBlfposA/UKMkg6dztltbh/1Bm5LlRZYB0RR iNNrDgkcTjhtkIF93xV22/WgVvBXM8iE6vbIzOdz00hwD67tMMwYdmVni9r41lyDNX/T z6xNrhwVN+tbtlPm9Ut1XI8PonSY1M5+wwynlL+geM7g40dmZNXa5MBTP7EbIqzau4M4 6W6EgFkM74z4QwB49Xd6zq8novoKUHPlL+teVGEmF448g7hfWwBoxXRTpks2DUcq4g6c ftSisZyVn/xmeqnGWNKb64tYR8Kf328h7gWVXk5wg9ZsUNTF0APDawzNnayGhgNV85iw bakg== X-Received: by 10.224.115.133 with SMTP id i5mr48182049qaq.81.1423529383060; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.140.131.208 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182767 Archived-At: --047d7bdcaa86346a41050eb14301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > The dedicated windows are an explicit _feature_ of GDB-MI. GDB-MI > attempts to provide a faithful emulation of an IDE-like debugging > environment, where the source is browsed and edited in the source > window, I/O is in the input-output window, registers and breakpoints > in their specialized windows, etc. What you describe above is the > consequence of that feature. gdb-mi is buggy and the usability is poor. Anecdotally, the most common Emacs FAQ I encounter is about gdb and the user is always satisfied once pointed to gud-gdb. The "gdb" command ought to invoke what "gud-gdb" does today. --047d7bdcaa86346a41050eb14301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> The dedicated windows are an explicit _feature_ of GD= B-MI. GDB-MI
> attempts to provide a faithful emulation of an IDE-lik= e debugging
> environment, where the source is browsed and edited in = the source
> window, I/O is in the input-output window, registers and= breakpoints
> in their specialized windows, etc. What you describe a= bove is the
> consequence of that feature.

gdb-mi is buggy and= the usability is poor. Anecdotally, the most
common Emacs FAQ I encount= er is about gdb and the user is always
satisfied once pointed to gud-gdb= . The "gdb" command ought to invoke
what "gud-gdb" d= oes today.

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