From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Meulien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [NonGNU Elpa] New package: electric-french Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 20:20:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83y1ky41dl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000019360a05fd65f628" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11621"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ruijie@netyu.xyz, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 05 20:21:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Epw-0002k3-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 20:21:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Ep4-00068g-6i; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 14:20:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Ep2-00068R-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 14:20:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q6Eoz-0006km-Jo; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 14:20:51 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5149e65c244so6831587a12.3; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1685989246; x=1688581246; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IKcfc5xtAJDewXr9bmQkkaiPDMEH/uOkEFhKcYr0Hrs=; b=iRviJFS8N0NvyTUNRLpBvWsRhUeiPbgOgeF69HPKaF0JBrI7EM4EFldaGONqRiJmXF JYDAta1NOjUvBIL6zkOu888X1y8C65tUmYPgSMJHxwm4NFsCHMHvK+F802B2CiKTXtuM e4cfxfERmwNU9FtwgkLAv82Le2MTSFiwr9pnKRezCf6b2G6aFRsCd+tinfcqkygzslLD rxfC+o6iwkjgcdv1y5Uy7J4OInkQUVtDR3Obl8mBWtML7PIfJcWSwfvA+lwe0ipCP1Qs OZdpdth9adiLsE7gbm5BRhBr/u9veo5PCpdUsoOyEMcOF6sqZzbkGbEXXYsUPMhzYUU3 dv2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1685989246; x=1688581246; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=IKcfc5xtAJDewXr9bmQkkaiPDMEH/uOkEFhKcYr0Hrs=; b=bmpXSdaOXLBWwwbu3CoEOAbN5mUi/e2xlxYaBzgACf6LP3Q9t+mu+KZOoRgGMjLtaY R+KnltqDKawiTh1YPCCwA+oR0gclI6wYSCf1/XiXgxRAAN9RGA5Ybm1PgWJQdnXIARfX 5i9NBclRdIsRb7MeSALaLTbqf4lTQVVzYZwAo2dR8eBp9TkhsA2yVGqm3iUwlS+2byNP 4wmRjTCxvWLRuJ+6ZHKepdc0ZZqep4vH6NAy2rvXEmveWtQqSCg69150lVU+gvus9fBf J/ooeriO6bcHC+y2raWM89KFnNIkkz4JWmkJWmf19AE75jVeqMDzahxiZJ3WRVeIGjn6 UCPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDyCyRver+4pl42OYWr85bvSQiHh5wRAC0hkJsvyx4GpD4bOmpIw Lms2Kwv/JqAySO+X6VqdLnyFeX6J7llK6iju5eASoPFD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6h5jd7JcEAuDdkH+rcJSKmRpLj8EBrDBJZZvH3+t71pCJpofoVRS+DXfCYNzBEkc9tptr6Lf4YWzfVZGhcJM0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:da8a:b0:973:e5d9:d6ff with SMTP id xh10-20020a170906da8a00b00973e5d9d6ffmr6510804ejb.66.1685989245923; Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y1ky41dl.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52a; envelope-from=orontee@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306655 Archived-At: --00000000000019360a05fd65f628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Is this to avoid breaking lines where they shouldn't be? If so, we > already have fill-french-nobreak-p; see fill.el. > Thanks, I didn't know that. > If this is for some other purpose, i.e. if typing French text needs to > insert no-break-space character for a purpose other than filling the > text correctly, then would someone please explain the needs, before > presenting solutions? > French text typed in Emacs is not necessary rendered in Emacs only: An HTML page written in Emacs but rendered in Firefox will have it's line breaks at different places and non-breaking spaces will apply for Firefox as well as Emacs. Other example: I use to type text in Emacs and later copy-paste in word processing applications; I am happy to have non-breaking spaces already in place. -- Matthias --00000000000019360a05fd65f628 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is this to avoid breaking lines where they shouldn't be?=C2=A0 If so, w= e
already have fill-french-nobreak-p; see fill.el.

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Thanks, I didn't know that.
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If this is for some other purpose, i.e. if typing French text needs to
insert no-break-space character for a purpose other than filling the
text correctly, then would someone please explain the needs, before
presenting solutions?

French text typed= in Emacs is not necessary rendered in Emacs only: An HTML page written in= Emacs but rendered in Firefox will have it's line breaks at different = places and non-breaking spaces will apply for Firefox as well as Emacs.

Other example: I use to type text in Emacs and later = copy-paste in word processing applications; I am happy to have non-breaking= spaces already in place.
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Matthias
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