From: Behdad Esfahbod <behdad@behdad.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, Khaled Hosny <dr.khaled.hosny@gmail.com>,
35721@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35721: 27.0.50; Strange Arabic shaping behavior
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:02:19 -0700 [thread overview]
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Hi Eli,
Pretty much things you said: if font is not mono-spaced, there's nothing we
can do. Also, if you don't pass neighboring context text to HarfBuzz,
again, nothing we can do.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:24 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Adding Khaled.
>
> The original message with images can be viewed here:
>
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=35721#5
>
> > Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:10:19 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > Cc: 35721@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
> > > Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 23:09:06 +0100
> > >
> > > I see the following on the master, harfbuzz, and emacs-26 branches
> > > (precise versions follow my signature), but I'm not sure how much of
> > > this is expected or due to e.g. my font.
> > >
> > > 0. emacs -Q
> > > 1. C-x 8 RET 0634 RET
> > >
> > > The "tail" of the sheen is truncated by the fringe:
> >
> > After looking at the code and thinking about this, I think this is a
> > feature (as strange as it may sound); see below for why I think so.
> > And yes, it definitely depends on the font, in this case DejaVu Sans
> > Mono. I don't see this with any other fixed-pitch font I have.
> >
> > I'm not 100% sure I'm right here, so I CC Behdad and Kenichi in the
> > hope that they will comment on this. Behdad, I see a very similar
> > issue with hb-view, when it renders this character using DejaVu Sans
> > Mono, so it isn't just an Emacs issue (and seeing what hb-view
> > produces actually made me think my opinion is correct about this).
> >
> > > 3. SPC
> > >
> > > The "tail" of the sheen becomes visible, but falls outside of the box
> > > cursor:
> >
> > Yes, this particular font's glyph for sheen has a negative value of
> > left bearing. Which AFAIU means it extends beyond the box dimensions
> > to the left.
> >
> > > 4. C-x 8 RET 0643 RET
> > >
> > > The kaf is correctly shaped in its initial form:
> > >
> > > 5. C-SPC
> > >
> > > The kaf changes to its isolated form:
> >
> > This is different problem, related to how we redraw portions of the
> > buffer inside the region (more generally, those which have colors
> > different from the default face).
> >
> > The problem is that we only pass to the shaping engine stretches of
> > text that have the same face. The basic reason for that is that a
> > different face can use a different font, and we can only handle
> > character composition for characters supported by the same font.
> > Another fundamental reason is that the display engine processes text
> > in chunks that have the same face. So when the active region, or some
> > other Emacs feature, paints portions of text in some non-default face,
> > we redraw the display, and pass to the shaping engine only the portion
> > that has that different face. If that portion is a single character,
> > you will see that it loses its correct shape and is rendered in its
> > isolated form. And if the colors change between two characters that
> > need to be shaped together, the shaping will break.
> >
> > You can easily see this effect if you display HELLO, and then
> > shift-select portions of the Arabic greeting (or any other script that
> > is a heavy user of character compositions).
> >
> > To fix this, we need some mechanism that will pass larger chunks of
> > text to the shaper in these cases, which will need some changes in how
> > the display engine iterates through buffer/string text when it
> > prepares them for display: we currently stop at every change of face.
> >
> > Patches to fix this are most welcome.
> >
> > > I occasionally see this happen even without typing anything, as if by a
> > > timer, but I'm not sure how to reproduce it. I think, without being
> > > 100% certain, that it's only happened while using the 'arabic' input
> > > method.
> >
> > Maybe, but given my description above, I'm not surprised, because it's
> > enough that Emacs decides, for some reason, to redraw just that one
> > character.
> >
> > Now to the original problem. Let me turn the table and ask you: what
> > did you expect to happen instead? This is a fixed-pitch font, so how
> > can Emacs display a character that extends to the left from its box,
> > at the left-most window coordinate? It has no choice but consider its
> > extension be off-screen, as if the window was hscrolled.
> >
> > The "normal" case for this character is to be part of R2L text, which
> > begins at the right window margin, and flows to the left. In that
> > case, the extension will overlap the character cell of the next (in
> > the logical order) character.
> >
> > So I think we have no bug here, we behave as expected. If not, I'm
> > sure Behdad and Kenichi will correct me.
>
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behdad
http://behdad.org/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-15 23:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-13 22:09 bug#35721: 27.0.50; Strange Arabic shaping behavior Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-14 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-14 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 23:02 ` Behdad Esfahbod [this message]
2019-05-16 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 13:45 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-05-16 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 14:20 ` Khaled Hosny
2019-05-16 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-16 20:54 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-17 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-20 19:07 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-16 20:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
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