From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>,
"András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>,
org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `csl' citation processor
Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 09:17:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGPjjb9wQmT32Un1y9i+q6BKtE3hQiSTYkNAYpeoivoN7A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg25zf0z.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 12:22 PM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 4:31 PM András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe instead of a full alist mapping backends to citation processors
> >> we could have only options to declare a separate processor for
> >> latex-based backends and another for non-latex ones?
> >
> > This would go a long way, and is probably all that's necessary.
> >
> > Really "latex" is the unique output mode here.
>
> But one may want to use a different processor for, say, beamer and
> regular latex. Both are "latex" based. Worse, all custom back-ends
> derived from "latex" are bound to use the same processor.
I indeed hadn't thought about that.
> Here's another proposal:
>
> `org-cite-export-processor' is now an alist, where keys are export
> back-ends or t, which is the default key.
>
> '((latex biblatex bibstyle citestyle)
> (beamer natbib nil nil)
> (my-latex natbib bibstyle)
> (t csl nil nil))
>
> The selected processor is the one associated to the back-ends closest to
> the current one used for export, by `org-export-derived-backend-p'
> order. So if `my-other-latex' is derived from beamer, it will use
> (natbib nil nil).
>
> OTOH, I suggest to stick to a single "cite_export" keyword, which
> overrides any selected processor above. IOW
>
> #+cite_export: basic
>
> will use basic whatever the current export back-end is.
>
> In practice, I think it is sufficient. The only case where it may be
> limiting is if you need to export with two different back-ends with two
> processors different from those set in `org-cite-export-processor'. But
> in that situation, I think swapping the cite_export keyword is
> acceptable.
>
> So overall, I think it is a good compromise between simplicity and
> power.
>
> WDYT?
I'm not the best person to weigh in on org details, but in general, it
looks good to me.
Just to confirm, then, this would allow me to specify:
1. oc-csl as default
2. oc-biblatex as default for latex
3. locally override
With 3, if on a particular document I didn't want 2, I'd just do this
in the document, which would suppress 2 in effect?
#+cite_export: csl style
...?
Would you have this nil by default, or is there a reasonable default
you could set?
Bruce
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-30 13:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-26 20:33 [wip-cite-new] Initial implementation of `csl' citation processor Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-26 21:11 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-26 22:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-27 0:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 1:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 8:01 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-27 12:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 13:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-27 14:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 14:34 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 15:02 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 16:13 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-27 17:49 ` Matt Price
2021-05-28 13:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-28 13:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-28 21:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 16:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 17:25 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 17:56 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 20:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-27 12:59 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-27 9:15 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-27 12:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-27 12:59 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-28 15:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-28 16:13 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-28 16:14 ` Timothy
2021-05-28 17:11 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-28 17:32 ` Timothy
2021-05-28 17:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-28 17:54 ` Timothy
2021-05-28 18:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-28 19:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-28 20:31 ` András Simonyi
2021-05-29 13:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-29 16:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-30 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
2021-05-30 20:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-31 23:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-31 17:46 ` András Simonyi
2021-06-05 17:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-29 7:51 ` Stefan Nobis
2021-05-29 14:08 ` Bruce D'Arcus
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