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This is based on discussion with one of the org-roam-bibtex developers about what the proper way to indicate an org-roam note is a bibliographic note; e.g. a note about a bibliographic source. Traditionally in org-roam, that is in a property drawer; like: :ROAM_REFS: cite:wallace-wells2019 That is using org-ref syntax there. So the obvious question is should one just put an org-cite citation there to do the same thing? Right now, the answer is clearly no, since they aren't allowed in property drawers. But perhaps they should be, just as any link can be? Except if they are, I recognize, they need to be treated as special cases; e.g ignored for the purposes of export and such. WDYT? Bruce