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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616592203; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=unA6k45C9brZWv2WRatOjeheGJrsPWU8o0TwtUrwSlw=; b=a7YdaSMmyO1CIWMCTPxFaoDg4JeSSQYTBQpGNueHYo63Neowz+sqFYL8DZLmzm8KMBI9fR w2SE8OhStIGydyVhUpcZk1/P635F83tJQr26zHe9vgCfBp/zo8gZB28J9M+R4dCQzKjl/+ EdL48qkIywdQulQtUkXoNngAwsof2XxUr74Knzr2bdALYrl0QqY+ryUp7BC4afcn3gts1g fXuW0FDyrpTquoL/ocQW8rvKRGq/dYsIKOEK8C43p+AtvQlfsm42g7PvlhfAJ6r8zxfkjZ gRD23NoWht5zAYBQ2stD+yhUr5BkqyDe1dJmQ5uMQog8NpX/2qpsZRK8YhW1Mw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616592203; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PP2K1nKgMVChk6Ar/dA1sIlHFoDUBgjeoSQlVqJOA1SMQ3wmOEaQgdi6nhZQTlYg6PgYfr epwNyC+l7E3s73jdGvPv41SLGwnONhEpryWxlZVXQwSxKN0AP6zGEMMEVbtQFhVhfXzMGA T31DzI5ER8kZmpOen515+j48ifGjP50iINyoGKLIhRdKGjjN2uZ2FStlrQie4NhCDKlFlJ rB+h59p7CVuPB6+RqoAih9XB8U3B1EhrE+8ANk7kkf2IAvp6JITdhmo5Vw/pOg9G8idI7w aGHVVEj1SuBiVtzF8DWIDu5lYqhK3usP5IODnHiSRgQTbcGw4OOGHDOyFObHlQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BZbQ9Wgk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BZbQ9Wgk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E586F2349E X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: rQ99S44a7W2V --000000000000d3c62905be482f6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I know Bastien and Nicolas are less active on the list these days, but does anyone know what the plan is with the wip-cite branch? My understanding is the syntax work that Nicolas did was done enough that it was ready for testing, and that the remaining questions were really what more needed to be done before merging. So lingering questions included possibility of incorporating citeproc-org directly, so rich formatting was available out of box, and if not that, what was minimum functionality needed for release. At least that's what I recall; it's been awhile. Anyone know anything else? On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:53 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:40 AM Bastien wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > just a quick word in this thread to say that we are in feature freeze > > for Org core features (ie. everything in org*.el files, + ob.el/ol.el). > > > > So let's take the time to discuss this in details for 9.5 (or later, > > when it's ready.) > > What about the question of including citeproc.el and citeproc.org in org > proper? > > That seems the most immediate practical question, as it would impact what > code > would be (further) developed, and therefore what would need to be tested, > etc. > > Andras has expressed openness to that, but also questions. > > Bruce > --000000000000d3c62905be482f6c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know Bastien and Nicolas are less active on the list the= se days, but does anyone know what the plan is with the wip-cite branch?
My understanding is the syntax=C2=A0work that Nicolas did = was done enough that it was ready for testing, and that the remaining quest= ions were really what more needed to be done before merging.

=
So lingering questions included possibility=C2=A0of incorporatin= g citeproc-org directly, so rich formatting was available out of box, and i= f not that, what was minimum functionality needed for release.
At least that's what I recall; it's been awhile.
=

Anyone know anything else?

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at = 10:53 AM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus= @gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:40 AM Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> just a quick word in this thread to say that we are in feature freeze<= br> > for Org core features (ie. everything in org*.el files, + ob.el/ol.el)= .
>
> So let's take the time to discuss this in details for 9.5 (or late= r,
> when it's ready.)

What about the question of including citeproc.el and citeproc.org in org prop= er?

That seems the most immediate practical question, as it would impact what c= ode
would be (further) developed, and therefore what would need to be tested, e= tc.

Andras has expressed openness to that, but also questions.

Bruce
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