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From: Filipe Silva <filipe.silva@gmail.com>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:06:33 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEwkUWMjx5WMt+4RY0zxSH078yztEemnHAb2McxDkuVRd9=SAg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shi08bx5.fsf@wanadoo.es>

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That's terrible. I see the point now. This should be explained in more
instances.

That's really not obvious for the legally inapt.

But tell me, how exactly could a berserk past author of a package do
legally to make things nasty? What legal maneuver would he use to exert
prejudice against FSF or the free software community if the software is in
GPLv3?

that gives me the impression that GPLv3 does not protect as much as I
believed.

On Jul 13, 2017 14:50, "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es> wrote:

> Filipe Silva <filipe.silva@gmail.com> writes:
>
> This is not the correct forum for this matters, but anyway...
>
> > With the recent activity regarding RMS wishing that someone would come up
> > and write a replacement for magit that could be bundled inside emacs, and
> > give FSF the whole copyright assignment, I cannot help but be intrigued:
> > what good do these required copyright assignments do to the free software
> > community?
>
> Only the copyright holder can effectively exert the associated legal
> rights.
>
> > I really, really tried to understand but cannot. It's hard enough for a
> > community to be graced with the luck of having someone as Jonas Bernoulli
> > write the magit package, give away de code as GPLv3, and actually
> maintain
> > it through years.
>
> Jonas is the current lead maintaner of Magit. Before him there were
> other maintainers. And even before was Marius Vollmer, who is the
> original author and who deserves all the credit about the UI design
> ideas that makes Magit great.
>
> > Now you have to also sign physical papers handing the
> > copyright to the FSF. that makes the process so much difficult. What's
> the
> > gain?
> >
> > So what if the copyright belongs to someone else. Isn't this free
> software?
> > gplv3? don't you have the four liberties?
> >
> > Enlighten me, please.
>
> If Emacs distributes work which are not legally assigned to the FSF and
> some author of that work goes berserk, things can turn *very* nasty, on
> the legal aspect. It happened on the past.
>
>
>

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2017-07-13 17:16           ` Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 17:49             ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-13 18:06               ` Filipe Silva [this message]
2017-07-13 18:25               ` John Yates
2017-07-13 18:32                 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 18:36                 ` Karl Fogel
2017-07-13 18:48                   ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:08                     ` Karl Fogel
2017-07-13 19:11                       ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:12                     ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-13 19:42                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-14  5:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-13 19:12             ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-13 19:23               ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:31                 ` Richard Copley
2017-07-13 19:56                   ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 20:07                     ` Richard Copley
2017-07-15  1:36                     ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-15  1:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 20:15               ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-14 10:12                 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-14 12:17                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-18  6:16               ` Andreas Röhler
2017-07-18  7:53                 ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-18 17:04                   ` Andreas Röhler
2017-07-18 17:42                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-19  3:32                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-19  9:20                         ` Andreas Röhler
2017-07-19 11:56                           ` tomas
2017-07-19 14:34                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-14  1:20             ` Richard Stallman

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