From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rostislav Svoboda Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:41:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu> <87oarp9sk4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87k32caad9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417459374 31462 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2014 18:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 01 19:42:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XvVvq-00013X-Tp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33261 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvVvq-0002Le-Gz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38903) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvVuw-0002G1-Uo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:41:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvVuw-0001Am-5I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:41:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229]:59388) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvVuw-0001AF-0N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:41:50 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hy10so4975612vcb.28 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=XwjHkjQ2bP7xUuPDyeX/NTdyakel2Gqve+3PhEFapt4=; b=qaWJB0yskLAsuDxQGnPof9C4M+thO1mL3XwwX89InzicfYPfQiNoFaEgchNSXTGujA tR7eKHVNIFc0/cyyBceg/iRLWj2akUL7mMsP/A8F7QFhoGrb68lFQbSrbUbSr5W8VT61 X8QbaFB8RTPFhB+njTqjtdFN8AEjgkyjpiGFrw0OivKZUZ96bDQHVgoNMt+wwEIsvPYT DC4OLtVBjnIZkh/JGe67GyTpoGkHdNsF7IiDEQW/otcx4dZ7MjqlSbSrYaMIL1n4xMj8 2m7/qafok2JFp6S4uDVWvKk8UDstBAPEUMRlCsBQCF31955m6+Vwjp8VWFFdvcXV1g55 uJ0Q== X-Received: by 10.52.138.168 with SMTP id qr8mr11485292vdb.73.1417459308418; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.31.54.11 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 10:41:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:42:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101355 Archived-At: > 1. I don't know much about it > 2. It's bad. In general this argumentation may appear in a new light if one restates it as: 1. I don't know much about it, because it is/looks too complicated and/or hard to learn. Take as an example the crontab editing. Not really that complicated but definitely nothing for a newbie. (BTW I just opened it using nano, so from now on nano is my default crontab editor - and now I gotta figure out how to undo this setting. Whata shot in a leg!)