> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:12:11 +0100
> Cc: Michael Sloan <mgsloan@gmail.com>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > I think we should only consider adding punctuation characters, because
> > that would ensure these lock files are displayed right next to the
> > files they lock, like today. Moving the lock files away of the files
> > they lock in the directory listing would be a disadvantage, IMO.
>
> On this MacOS machine, I see the following:
>
> $ ls -al
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x 11 skangas staff 352 Nov 9 10:05 .
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 skangas staff 33 Nov 9 10:05 .#foo ->
> skangas@example.org.795
> drwxr-xr-x 50 skangas staff 1600 Nov 9 10:03 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 Nov 9 10:03 a
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 Nov 9 10:03 e
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 3 Nov 9 10:05 foo
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 Nov 9 10:03 i
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 0 Nov 9 10:03 z
>
> In other words, the lock file is not next to the file it locks. Are
> you seeing something else?
Yes.
Is the above Gnu 'ls'? And what is your locale?
> How would the ordering differ with a suffix like ".lock" compared to
> "#" or some other punctuation character? I would have thought that it
> would be very similar. Maybe I'm missing something.
The default file sort order in UTF-8 locales ignores punctuation
characters.