From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Alekseyev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-h f strange behavior with 24.1.50 snapshot Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:14:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341512054 17037 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2012 18:14:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 18:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 05 20:14:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqZ9-000821-NA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:14:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqZ8-0006QO-MK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58058) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqZ3-0006QE-BE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqZ1-0000Sx-NM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:38045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqZ1-0000Si-GP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so6766373vcb.0 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YOFl34v7npqbGiieM6t7gC4BXRHl7MI7b4Q+7r+3ITg=; b=J5Zo2Wk0qAy5abI8tgzS2qyFGplP8HqTAVuJ3l7wFPEtZDKen7RblJcp7ISDK+Dti0 tudLDZ1duw0TfnVjWzqYtp3nGqwTzcNr+o816eSd06fa3dyvlIG+uyvNYcpxkdAKsfET 6Bhz4BA/64UoOWY9pBFUThxL3QKaP+RcVKzbrf8QcZrXiNCSfG+yRf6IH6tnMtrWOBTf 86trT/oi0p3kUSlvW0bKDLlG/DcdN8KMbVbllMd3NUYmFHtJfS4ESydAqVxynt+RotGc XLpi2lQ+NCpKO1NL5uY6t5RlQSz6M29F3w72AvUeWCPc4BQBm6+VfQc+Poe5Lge8uvgC S87A== Original-Received: by 10.52.89.72 with SMTP id bm8mr10978489vdb.5.1341512041596; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.52.112.38 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.220.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85684 Archived-At: >> In general, how does one go about getting more information about such >> errors? Can one enable a more detailed traceback, like one provided >> by --debug-init, but something that would get triggered by errors such >> as the one above? > > What I can suggest is to use this to make GNU Emacs list in *Messages* all Elisp files it loads and compare these lists and then the Elisp files in unusual places: > > (defadvice load (before debug-log activate) > (message "(Tipp von Kai G) Lade jetzt: %s" (ad-get-arg 0))) > > -- Thanks for the tip! For the record, my original problem was resolved by installing the emacs-snapshot-el package. It's probably a bug for help to break silently if the elisp files aren't installed...