From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 17:01:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zhaxi70f.fsf@yahoo.com> <4D145B75-0C23-4371-A388-747BB9E42327@traduction-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="60809"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Howard Melman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 07 23:02:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWneu-000Fhy-Rr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 23:02:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWnet-0001JQ-T9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 17:02:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52562) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWneO-0000tV-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 17:01:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f169.google.com ([209.85.219.169]:32832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWneN-00080f-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 17:01:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f169.google.com with SMTP id b8so3686013ybn.0 for ; Thu, 07 May 2020 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=umR8MW7Q6jqt1fEy19z324Jb4VC8d+8EQjGFaW60Lwg=; b=CGlLql29A8A1LA5ypKL9gi1vZeXmYigeU5YQnEzugn3Z2F0R9cQA7EHbXz/aJN6ojV OaaHpQeNrjtay0+QeczSBxNioC2f9Cu8W/yZehkTUzEbe2fwMzD7c/W2n4eYtHYJK/4Y OKEFPUEGrDk01hopXesLekxulvOVUcoqEt7SKgRPrdYv8Nc44F52I05i104uIHovzYQk AQ1odepA6nDTEqdZQhBQO31yMy7JUBRV66cwe1appqMMBKKtkpKKgEfLc5fA8NnrJqGJ yJb5Zei0ualP0qPJCNhGSwykO4y82d8joAQgl0J5c13ulLOTId8iSs7hpXyBcascxU29 S0zA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYNwPIYDnsA6oqYqk+3Wu6vy1ZPc1F8XYSosJUnDOdWw3JQPb8O 4UFkjv6QGKrPe9W4HIHS+9odwa4uTMnr7KOBZJA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKAM6xGem8VJ5+1j4MEGc76nU+uhJ8B1PecXGnUv0P7tcIO/xHF4+SKklBRlCOQ3uVZHr3alHwPApVM/Z+qhVE= X-Received: by 2002:a25:5c4:: with SMTP id 187mr26658453ybf.181.1588885306248; Thu, 07 May 2020 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 7 May 2020 17:01:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.169; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f169.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/07 17:01:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249221 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: >> (with-eval-after-load "outline" >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "C-") 'org-cycle) >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "S-") 'org-global-cycle) >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-") 'outline-demote) >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-") 'outline-promote) >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-") 'outline-move-subtree-up) >> (define-key outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "M-") 'outline-move-subtree-down) >> ) > > Yes, this would completely remove (from my point of view) any need of > switching from outline-mode to org-mode, as I originally suggested. The decision here seems to be that we will not convert these files, so I have closed Bug#40813. I have opened Bug#41129 and Bug#41130 instead: 1. outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41129 2. outline-mode: Add new commands like org-cycle and org=global-cycle https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41130 Thanks to everyone participating in the discussion. In particular, thanks to Howard Melman for the above idea. Best regards, Stefan Kangas