From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26951: 25.2; `calc-mode': autoload? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:59:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <52d500af-7e63-47f1-8508-1c694180077b@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="188876"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 26951-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 29 05:00:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRh-000n1V-Ty for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:00:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRg-0005S2-MK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:00:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRM-0005Rj-8Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRL-0007x2-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRK-0007vz-PJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPRK-0001uy-Jo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:00:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <52d500af-7e63-47f1-8508-1c694180077b@default> Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 26951 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 26951@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 26951-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D26951.15697259767285 (code D ref 26951); Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26951-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 02:59:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51817 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPQt-0001tR-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:59:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:38349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPQr-0001tC-Pf for 26951-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id h195so3601469pfe.5 for <26951-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:59:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3kZz0atO18Sh0/hCOFEpjfpI8SAF2R5vJwm2h5+zb2U=; b=b35FDmjiPaUWmhb9A965H8fsJcLHBD60DnrIfq11V8oiiuEd8RTEPAdLe16VAAD3pe bco53GgS+Miw0NUx2/l0lmysPCaF7euO2OTeBCiilRTbBWVXwCwxAyP1C8PC8HNwaIgc wagtFsDHfhtxpcEk/Mfp/5K3ZgUkPnaPiFzDEHeZb+j6xWuRMssVzi6UoZpNccA5aDU2 ed65TBQLOUu2bursTrpSoZdxvxoPq/bXX6lIjNFlVNjcD44LtV7Id6C4b3yjz5E7CEB5 dtV5MHNw0LLjubsOYjWzkihfpJgTn/kEfQ3qP5CMdwsjtOURSkxKJvg6k+YZFKcuWxLR ckWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWSJPh2QsklM/xLfyLFg1iU7hrMlzlu3ODOFPRllVwr0qxCtIkr WF4v4+6V+cI0qLW1fbb6NH+pASwLRDSnauskgeU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyyvQNuJrekmFyDmErH5lJF1n5dj+h0JmhkiUHgZILA50sVrNNhYtTL2dPxVOQBiZYDLNzSNDc3rUfRzIGFek0= X-Received: by 2002:a62:e917:: with SMTP id j23mr13885863pfh.50.1569725967477; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167576 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 06:52:19 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Drew Adams >> >> C-h r >> >> i calc ; No match >> >> Something is wrong here too. Calc should at least be mentioned >> in the Emacs manual. There should be a cross reference there >> to the Calc manual. > > I don't see why. We don't have such references for other packages > documented in their separate manuals. The Emacs manual is not the > Hub" of Emacs-related documentation; the "dir" node is. > >> Searching for `calc' in the Emacs manual finds only one reference: > > You forgot "M-x info-apropos". Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 12:04:35 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Drew Adams >> Cc: 26951@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > You forgot "M-x info-apropos". >> >> No I didn't. That doesn't find `calc' in the Emacs manual. > > Because 'calc' is not in the Emacs manual. The command does find > 'calc' in the manual where it is described. Which is what that > command is for: to find stuff you don't know which manual to search it > for. > > IOW, if you cannot find something in the manual(s) you think that > something should be in, try the 'd' command or info-apropos as the > last resort. >From the above, it seems like there is nothing more to do here, and I'm therefore closing this bug report. If anyone disagrees, feel free to reopen it. Best regards, Stefan Kangas