From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 15:30:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <874ko8wu8k.fsf@blind.guru> <83eencmj3l.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9506"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, Mario Lang , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 17:31:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfaW-0002Ms-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:31:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58484 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfaV-0007hJ-Mm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfZS-0006bm-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::630]:41714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfZR-0008Ub-5g; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id lo4so23155785ejb.8; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:30:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=B7/fSroNAvPvs3YpBS5sLeSpFSYCgkuWEA7r28iq5c0=; b=tHa1kU0EZ5YvIt65yTTF79NBEb6ck54QJzsUW+rkTK195BYDZr4tQdjSM3qIwnsYIN m9p4RqAyEHJ6t0TBN3HzYQoqlwNeZRGwrEZLs3p+dbsN4H+xKEdYd/FVeaob8YEkc+Ia iO9uP7kAgVor4BNGjBjTFhHJhG4URtK+ZiTztGyGhkfD3LltYslG1t/1fNrbkjC0SDmf fNvhW5nZmMoHPmUhiUYJMynWd99XcLvsIldSUEpXjfusk5psUO3F2HGwkue2/sDRaxWl r/8Mx/Z1tc7iK7V46aLIcb3C0zENbr6b6QHBYvoUMKwuwtYxspQgaw2Nc5mZEutIv988 EbyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=B7/fSroNAvPvs3YpBS5sLeSpFSYCgkuWEA7r28iq5c0=; b=l0qzBvOgk+2OvwdWPbrNNPhQcUM3YOyxRTQ5pqZANLrXzayj99O6FGsmhoOZBNtrFB LsLcWRyMT6Fhn5WqpWMNfyYm1eM2aEP2c4v+9NcEmhD4pf157Pikfm2PONQYgG0atNDT hWilH7xioEp7VrF34NiWoZuDdAZ+W8qoxS14NVrawGdYE2YG2DCEVFglYAqu7xsludXF bplGbB8m8q8oys0VSLQus+ysJIVKpev4rKf7w7ArNwzuCshIcFJsq/QVrK/0yhRkyDXF u5zh7Z10D21saZ6cGSGUp0qF0kavnkzaBquNOc0f/O1WdKSGiNPAgmpf0YeZ6t7Ry7Uw s+pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ALfGvf9VTUChB430W/OZ74aSqHs4QxyGwZ4Ysnh+w6TkkUl2x sNlM2qbAcJNsS1NB4fJLhNkytDbFUBMaJK6hjTw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwDi1GMVLSFAGNt6f3a1yaLqSXm48Z/ghyTO09k/H7z7dbMaInt+4DyWifIjDk26X9gKnt9G7DnLlATwCA/w8o= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2a13:: with SMTP id j19mr4320704eje.272.1599579006381; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 15:30:05 +0000 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::630; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x630.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254749 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Beside this, we could create a kind of hierarchical configuration > system, where the hierarchy is not (like is the case in Custom) based > only on functionality, but rather on "popularity/importance/frequency". It would also be good to be able to be able to present options in a logical and predetermined order in custom instead of the current alphabetical order. Could custom be extended to handle that? Maybe we could add a :weight property to defcustom? > We already have a bit of that with the few options which are placed > directly in the `Options` menu. We could offer a menu entry "Settings" > which shows the "most commonly" requested settings (in a buffer rather > than in a submenu). Agreed, excellent idea. > Agreed. Maybe we should start small and try to create a few simple > custom-themes like `emacs24`, `emacs19`, `dark-background`, `Vim`, ... > > And ideally someone should try and see what breaks down when we try and > create a theme that mimicks Prelude or Starter Kit, and then work > towards lifting those restrictions. Agreed. (Although I'm looking for the 'emacs29' theme myself.)