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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: 15917@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Smith <psmith@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:39:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnHdfS5ff6-b-yLsoGW_6o979YD6b=X_BxGo_-Y1wDaBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqk6e5zm.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 18 Nov 2013 04:36:13 +0100")

Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:

> (info "(emacs) Keymaps") doesn't tell anything about keys reserved for
> users (C-c LETTER).  BTW, this was the case some time ago, see
>
>   ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_492.html

New URL:
https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/emacs/html_node/emacs_492.html

> Users reading the users manual should have a chance to find this
> essential information, because getting used to bindings you cannot keep
> because of collisions you find later is very annoying.  I propose to add
> a sentence describing that C-c LETTER key sequences are reserved for
> users.  It would also be suitable for "(emacs) Init Rebinding", but
> somewhere it should be said.

The text on the above link was removed in:

    commit 8ba46c89bc0c2dccc9e51f1533dd127ecc125fbd
    Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
    Date:   Sat Sep 19 21:23:21 2009 +0000

OTOH, in `(elisp) Key Binding Conventions' we say:

   • Don’t define ‘C-c LETTER’ as a key in Lisp programs.  Sequences
     consisting of ‘C-c’ and a letter (either upper or lower case) are
     reserved for users; they are the *only* sequences reserved for
     users, so do not block them.

It's not clear to me why this convention was removed from the user
manual.  Should it perhaps be added back in?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-28  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-18  3:36 bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users Michael Heerdegen
2013-11-18  4:36 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-18  7:16   ` Josh
2013-11-18  9:16     ` Andreas Röhler
2020-10-28  7:39 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-10-28  8:05   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29 10:07     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-10-29 15:22       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29 15:33         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-30 11:47           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:55               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 12:09                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-01 11:52                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29 16:59         ` Drew Adams
2020-10-29 17:22           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29 17:58             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-29 18:15               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29 18:28                 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30  1:16                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-30 19:29                     ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 20:15                       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 20:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-10-30 20:50                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 21:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-10-30 21:24                               ` Drew Adams

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