From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:52:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211004081727.4F24921048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <871r4qcs8s.fsf@gnus.org> <87o87ubcnl.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dm9en7.fsf@gnus.org> <818f9907c2b1fe8b54b1@heytings.org> <83tuhlnkxm.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c2f359a71f49@heytings.org> <83czo9nj4g.fsf@gnu.org> <818f9907c244b9db0bea@heytings.org> <871r4p575m.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20699"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Gregory Heytings , Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 13 16:54:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mafdy-0005FR-Fu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:54:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53324 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mafdx-0003Fo-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 10:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mafco-0001od-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 10:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x534.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::534]:35589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mafcm-0004ST-Kr; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 10:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x534.google.com with SMTP id e7so2566719pgk.2; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:52:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/ZZIYAyjYxTlfpfvrmZW9ehOFYY8ZWmUQ0vdzidOOz4=; b=CicLfNAGZ6RJV1rWQSC2+GxCjeoXTfmzYW2GScuNSndavvDxhoRX1CsbM/nj1g0dl5 LzNAqggO3+wFAPHjKFA1257E+idPmai6EGzWv3K93hLniVRjy2XCuREV4xxeIYKqmGeP 11OQh6xEKC1R0uwl/ics+xy3Ohs+6t9eP79rLfbXxTWB5PtjahKqnoNNeNo47e1cNifw z48uQqe1nxTtgRMh6necuJfDANVogibiqvoAbbS10RXNfPyQB9eG/lXyk1PD7NbLeywn IxhGLIrU65HoJin/czVifENmNFw755XENroyZlLURWIXrFW6TwWA60t0tglLD5/BWUz7 CBVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/ZZIYAyjYxTlfpfvrmZW9ehOFYY8ZWmUQ0vdzidOOz4=; b=vCgYY0gnM8zORJHaRevbQd4iAJ1hD9JD5KXbsa8l9NQtQBWijeQ2Wqg6FX7MSAyetI vBV7rA+Ee1zx4K44J40ktNRdwNFFzrFJ6tB5FYzEUqgA/laPQ9d7SsCfr3pRVPUx13xv vTgghZ5eCVReST5gCiVhtCOEllqfhM/EAg1PvYJLXwDex9xB+KehdAgW7prlJvySkPQB /TYCBGifUZJPEjWWjWBJAt7m0EfnfENAzPEhIIHh/0WbcbgvE2QEQaDntcd045QObHdw tmhBl1dB2UL6OY95osrhBMxvChZCLv4qMOy/KXUzIEOaelIt54njZbUTsBSAyQKwZecW rtYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5330hJsxqe4M+718pFDX50tV58GP2sYnBqTi1xB2r1wAvPfQ8e/C QuSNTsageHSJGPLApM3wfMz/H7apf+9YKiYeSMs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGW+Do/FfXlcSy0dD5a9C2kCJZ1taYaIF9d1Bm6y/D3LELpnLrutRk3xw2K5v9pzI5kby2azA2YUqz0w6VbWY= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:978b:0:b0:44c:abf1:a8b8 with SMTP id o11-20020aa7978b000000b0044cabf1a8b8mr38423942pfp.35.1634136774788; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871r4p575m.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::534; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x534.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276910 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > We don't want our basic building blocks to be DWIM-ey, but instead have > well-documented, reliable interfaces, and certainly not change those > interfaces in subtle ways. So changing `define-key' in this way is a no > go. I agree with Lars here. But how about a new function (e.g. named 'bind-key') that defaults to kbd-syntax? Then we could encourage its use in new code and init files.