From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17530: 24.4.50; `package-load-list': incorrect defcustom type Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 23:39:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8828b8fa-29e3-4888-928e-b25c92e4923d@default> <87impta7ug.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="210714"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Noam Postavsky , 17530@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 15 23:42:36 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cHx-000sdf-17 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 23:42:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cHv-0006qR-DV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:42:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFX-0004Sn-B7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFW-0002EX-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:40:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFW-0002ET-Ap for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFW-0006L0-4n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 21:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17530 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 17530-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17530.156858358624328 (code B ref 17530); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 21:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17530) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2019 21:39:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFG-0006KK-Ck for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]:36094) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9cFE-0006K4-BB for 17530@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id m29so2177311pgc.3 for <17530@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:39:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PUt4h2baQi2o7TYUjnyascQsygqks8wht5gHnb/8j7c=; b=rfcDSLT7JDFeNyjF2RNx0QmB4O8cbIc5Mhtrin/M/cCxKHGzZL8TRKnx1RW6+PmV24 B04PTjUlBhEhCAhutcOQRYpMKrOepjnt7742xsVZwGteo3zU0DVEgJ3YcFnTEJQnYG/r h1cxN+pSJXOBXCgYFoSNq2U3Xyh6nIN1uX4gUBaDStkfY+jECDIPrT/cQ7KCu/r9uSxm Ee9+3Y/A3a/SdlCf9ZMjeP6N1JJPduS7tNKuvRzaiPNAoaL6OYxKw295jlIw2+/hGPIk HPadVuaePHn5Qq7OnzRwTzFS0kN2qnfzrtS1gjrtkf0Y1opdtJFQoNc/4c41Rec3Xj54 KfYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWOPuv8nlXdp3906y8NcP52HMLQLY513theE2YmhtxTkjody+fE mpG0AH6QyqCJSgjhNbwDlUgn0EzgvppisXmHF08= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxp8lhygw8oc/R/JtT2cyn/LLPgG6SkSWo2HSNP+bNfME1KflTHnKTOEFv3W6djuXoaAoV76kb36448E7vKh0s= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1150:: with SMTP id d16mr17871776pje.2.1568583578344; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:39:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166518 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > > So pretty much anyone installing packages > > No, anyone who wants to _load_ packages. You would > specify/configure which packages to load, yes. Is > that outlandish or too restrictive? It's too restrictive, yes. You have already specified that you want to use them by installing them. >> would have to customize it to `(all)' in order to >> get their packages working. That sounds like a >> worse default. > > Not to me, it doesn't. Just because you've installed > some packages doesn't mean you want them to all to be > loaded. In this use case you would customize `package-initialize' to only load what you're interested in. > Why would we assume that, by default, users should > load the latest installed versions of all installed > packages? Because that's what most users would expect, I think. Best regards, Stefan Kangas