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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278355 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Is the "prefix command" thing vital to know? And should the ??'s be > fixed? I don't think the "prefix command" is vital to know, as the commands will be listed individually later. I say skip it. It would be good to fix "??", yes. > key binding > --- ------- > DEL backward-delete-char-untabify > C-H-x closure > H-v eval-current-buffer > > C-c d closure > C-c s lars-patch-strip > > C-M-i completion-at-point > C-M-q indent-pp-sexp > C-M-x eval-defun Much better. Perhaps put "closure" as "(closure)" or "[closure]" or something to make it clear that this is not a command named "closure"? Or perhaps ""? > Or... make that > > --- ------- > > into a thin line on graphical displays? Makes the display even more > compact. Is the line necessary at all? I think one line of spacing is okay instead. We could experiment with either bold or a different color for "key" and "binding" and different combination of blank space/no blank space and line/no line. (Can we please capitalize "Key" and "Binding" while we're at it?)