From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52569: 29.0.50; Wishlist: There should be a way for packages to handle files without reading them in first Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:03:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87tuf7zksh.fsf@gnus.org> <861r28io75.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87mtkvppot.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 52569@debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 07:04:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzujo-0001FA-Uw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:04:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzujn-0001WU-MN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:04:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzujL-0001UR-FS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzujK-0003jc-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mzujJ-0006eE-Uh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:04:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 06:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52569.164015302125483 (code B ref 52569); Wed, 22 Dec 2021 06:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2021 06:03:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mzuiy-0006cx-QH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:03:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:46907) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mzuiw-0006ci-8b for 52569@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id w7so550430plp.13 for <52569@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:03:38 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SOuKgE5tX6ZMuj5Y9E6uyzbj/19NMIAJ3Gqc7eabttA=; b=o2NLeOXdqvm5RZmRXrRDlw02P3xuT2uTkP14U42MOBlJuJcTHf2MgEgsbPOm6xVwHl XOKATajyK15EDJM1ru1Y3eWqkP0Flf0MWvn3GcbbuOf226vJYGeUcPemgmelwvlYKMUj k1KMJ3gAlfzETW/jCQG8jrAgav2G/41jIMB3tdSE6f6xE/ndiqaTHHWZOHX7Cj6aL3LY NFhrT81+z0jKKF0GT+91eo7FkvHoqlOsFp90FOFBbxaLEZCb1EKhBCtSGlTS+Fxg2GxD YgNKmqHJmHKykqT6PAxBhju+4QI4Lbnhq8Z0ef7fX/lBoNdaqw77E8G+sc7Y7Uderb9y sFdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533CeREF7zx8408Wlo9W9ndh2hJVyHFL1shwZ9rH244TqRln8qS8 6qM1/5bFKgQcRcSeMjZpapRJA7ZoQOi5cjqYrm8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlCtFmAAhixiN8Qdwjq6SdxcqtOfIQHc5oj/niin8lEve8e1AGHJ2O+dgchwX39T6ffVzib6Eu9ToN47xHzsU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1646:: with SMTP id il6mr2001445pjb.143.1640153012444; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:03:32 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:03:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87mtkvppot.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:53:54 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:222912 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> non-persistent-file-mode, or transient-file-mode, or ephemeral-mode... > > Hm... if `view-mode' wasn't taken already, perhaps that would have been > an option. Here are some additional ideas: special-display-mode special-file-mode no-load-mode no-visit-mode [if it won't be visiting]