From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7498: 23.2; scheme-mode.el doesn't parse racket file correctly Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:45:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ilxqt9mp.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 7498@debbugs.gnu.org, Alan Third , =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel , Stefan Monnier To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 22:47:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdey6-00041d-O5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:47:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56590 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdey4-0003dn-U7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdexs-0003Zi-NK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdexq-0007Ks-Rd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:47:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdexq-0002xW-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 20:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7498 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 7498-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7498.163484916211248 (code B ref 7498); Thu, 21 Oct 2021 20:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7498) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2021 20:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdewr-0002v9-US for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]:46606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdewq-0002ur-9z for 7498@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:46:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id m21so1341082pgu.13 for <7498@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rWKBm7ffdpx/NkSYR/x1jN31OKVqvTtg+znok+hAG5c=; b=iYkzcUZgRndM53vp+QB1MnluTtnKCAtWzc+oG/sMlLZe7Y43Wge2p2kerBUBRitXeB PCg3Sgx/SGKd0wf+KPKprSkx11Jju3jABCSJubREBDjt5kaKcJZ2x92tPa+bsb+QBxGV HIGix/VFo/MhKnfjY6BgXIEa6ovWZe/W+/GH1IhNf21s6nkj8xi1Sq2nzdBW115N1ha5 w7QcAnDL+LfeS23ycDLQ6epRY7srSOq7uHOAvhfZYUIMc933vP8r5JhK3APx6QXtikFD ZCF7m9URKf8Opy7lgpCIzgZqJWjJT5hzzVZQOG7XnIDwBDjUzUDHz5/NV3/ZM/smTYHl HQFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530jyCfJPOYq74C3pNsOWVhtPDx/MMIdY53LBrhbR0K/5E2kMeTP RxiQI2CqUa1pL/RJaLAGLairuRK6iWIXGG/ctFw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJygTmckAyfqNSUU/pBbg063TS1xXSIUnX21SS7bVCIxde0fywDAumCto3R0aw1+fjR6VnanPBJCWLGYRDRFqm0= X-Received: by 2002:a63:81c2:: with SMTP id t185mr6225649pgd.114.1634849154518; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:45:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87ilxqt9mp.fsf@posteo.net> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217818 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: >> What do you think of adding racket-mode to NonGNU ELPA? Is doing that >> something you would be willing to volunteer for? > > By coincidence, the racket-mode maintainer just responded to my > request[0] from a weeks ago, and he isn't that enthusiastic because ELPA > is stable-by-default, and he prefers a rolling release model. > > Of course it would still be possible, but the lack of upstream > cooperation would make it more difficult. > > [0] https://github.com/greghendershott/racket-mode/issues/389#issuecomment-948738602 (I've CC:ed in Stefan Monnier.) I see no need for us to be strict about such things, any more than Debian is trying to be strict with the packages they distribute. So I would encourage the maintainer to keep his current release model, or whichever one he happens to prefer, and explain explicitly that we have no interest in imposing any kind of release model on anyone. However, it would be very useful if he could periodically update the "Version" header, for example on the 1st of each month or whatever suits him, so that the package is automatically updated ("released") on NonGNU ELPA. Beyond that, I don't see that we do anything in particular to raise user expectations on our end, but I don't think that his concerns are therefore invalid. One way to manage user expectations could be to add a brief note to the documentation (e.g. the README and/or Commentary section) explaining the release model of the package.