From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:43:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <875ytag0hb.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgqmd5np.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83wnlqk3rn.fsf@gnu.org> <72dd5c2a-42c7-b12e-05ed-e93adbd89727@gmail.com> <83ilxajyhw.fsf@gnu.org> <83fssejxf8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34487"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 02 19:48:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhyq8-0008mK-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 19:48:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhyq7-0000EI-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhykk-00011A-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e]:35419) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhyki-0003JC-Aa; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 14:43:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id b13so243947plg.2; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KvL9kuX+xjwi0QVQfE9CgvI8Ib1MnAx2XFyCXU7HK5c=; b=OerXHlFzVZvofsqioMMn4uvSVWoM4I0aDEmt6jxpLl3Bo3v0ixPJ5Yx/h4sCv76D43 ywqAExWpdjjV1sFyPKTDE5o//+PEYvxDusoqo1/7hI2l11g0xo/o5SnR1OsSfSEjvdNj d2M0r9HuIfKg1oiD9HoHFiTx1kLEdXLs8aCoMvuI2lLsxxHgEhxM2AeWPHPMcvTxdzR2 9+VfDGQ/sZv2sVyNTW7V+v/D7ArxvDLmUW3d56hRpPX4kCNh67f1Imgl7a3tznJhFIgu AIpS2cDclT62Dvby9gQcHX+MqiXjVVH8xczggftNWuc2uWAeI7EzQT/kkAmXt/m+9Qql Wbjw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KvL9kuX+xjwi0QVQfE9CgvI8Ib1MnAx2XFyCXU7HK5c=; b=wvg9KwlQ47B1S4DrGFDIGLwVveDnWo6Cs8hyE6KRN/WEhQojkbINeY2F40E8G6nLPZ FJ9CDdTqWOqZVYGlZa5LN69pPufOdXXGjki+kyH+K2aWMFXFyxgMNvOojglslx28ONXj 8bZ2hzmh5HubnAAh3pxHynszX263jekN+JEfZUWanVeqDbXkPz06oqIyEgGGZVCevzfa eP4m7WnCn6hksyFQDTofbzyeQLbAdyR3NlELut9G+hb2OJ/YfDC5kXiCa9rDNcwpT3tF NaztYFk6F+2W1/yvcXi3w0u4w63NtGzNhao8fesGwCbWAlzz2yN8bBWqaK56IkbW5seQ 41Eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532+MB05yEa6N2Z33wkHHXw6TACcmqvh0ZeCGzu2Lk1rDTMPUf+s 3aKS/Vxqmniarjv5p3TRH4IxfkOcZKrKvNEMTSSat4YF X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxMr8aWssNfp9W88jWUPfBsEP8cDyQ5bVbFevdRMiCfxx+bz0jVL+vozoZbx6gLPfFLgojFQf0pKtROdwmE67Y= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e8c9:b0:141:6eaa:2137 with SMTP id v9-20020a170902e8c900b001416eaa2137mr33256125plg.22.1635878598554; Tue, 02 Nov 2021 11:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:43:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83fssejxf8.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278514 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > It does display them, look closer. >> >> I also can't see it in the screenshot, or in my local Emacs. Could you >> describe what we're missing? > > I don't know what you are missing. How are you looking for them, and > what do you expect to see? I expect to see some visual indication that the "formatting controls" are there. As for how I do it, I just look at the screenshot, and I don't understand in what way they are displayed. It looks indistinguishable from text without such controls.