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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284469 Archived-At: LdBeth writes: > Sure, these are what I can think of so far that can improve the > editing experience of a newcomer to emacs. Please feel free to make > comment on and edit this list. The only ones from your list I think could be relevant to a beginner are `cua-mode' and `delete-selection-mode. Perhaps you could include `hl-line-mode' (which I use myself), but I'm not sure it is important enough. Same goes for `mouse-avoidance-mode'. I would strongly advise against including either `edt' or `autoarg-mode' in a list of modes to recommend to a beginner. > ** tab-bar-mode, tab-line-mode > Tabbar emulation. I don't use it much. Is it polished enough? > ** kinsoku > Avoid certain characters appear at beg-of-line.. I don't understand what this does or when I would want to use it from reading it's docstring. Probably it should be better documented. The name is also... confusing. > * List of interesting editing customize variables > > This variables are worth to have a look at. They may improve your > editing experience a little if the default value of the variables > are changed for your specific needs. > > + show-trailing-whitespace > + track-eol > + colon-double-space > + tab-always-indent > + kill-do-not-save-duplicates > + kill-read-only-ok > + kill-whole-line > + require-final-newline Sounds basically good at a glance, with some exceptions: > + case-fold-search I think we have commands for this, so I'd not specifically recommend new users to fiddle with it. > + set-mark-command-repeat-pop I don't understand what it does and I doubt a beginner would either.