From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 17:04:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="6540"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 02:04:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ1Ms-0001Za-4N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 02:04:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33878 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ1Mr-00028y-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 20:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ1MG-0001ec-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 20:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]:37495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ1MG-0005ss-3Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 20:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id f5so628191ybo.4 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 17:04:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vJMnRc80HWktqrYaYsm8KqcwtTg+wz1Du2E4gnHUOq4=; b=bQ2dafMBMRDlnOV1oSc9p/b08f4Pez/hOoHQjn8sHy5LI9i4I6D96Qva27zhDrmBdx Ri520GlQZakKdH2UMuadxcZlav6j22ivNaTLMjyfWrVXknwpGS16U/jx1ux077dXEQ22 whml1pAD0WEkT8dIKxQDRoKDkYmF+SMPzVgENpiOogJyj+DQTpO8wSFQ/llLf9Ek40wZ N4PQy4Fw38CqUxpGTY8XtTY/hI105S+GCeV/N5lt/rGhcA78r6VaQc/uZDC1glYPt/VF /oKeOZ4sFnpzvoQwQhk3aZOrsCO7IsIKIQ79w8dyJqYGGuUINqz4KREYLIMc7KeRjP0M 9qug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vJMnRc80HWktqrYaYsm8KqcwtTg+wz1Du2E4gnHUOq4=; b=jzsDKd/JH3mEHzmGQLC41bKqXXTReJfdqXt2IPR5/MRjBTXqzOCNBFyy8vEZP1hsJv 9+bIZimSo4oMGbwuSZfUP2NDGlKZgib2qrUYwPOtIBLLVMc0AyC7alvpfGQr7GOxvWA8 /B6HA5vqzmutdJHso6dYLiDB5sRqYZo4eC+tbfHvpFz9he+Hg8S3kwsRAL8X1AbVW+Y+ GEHwzNtZqvgpPm4OUva8CMv1zbWtCh40jYLbII1AYfHGmPytFL3jjpOCpqlkz2ntxMqB bdIYav8VgdiGmsoPa4Gi6qVvQreHouaOKumiv+HzHAkFLmRO1oHmB3b/XS9EjKoQey2u u5Yg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530oelkdBKsTejIcU/ZBXtMnI/vaFHaVrRStlwsdt+RskdhEQJSL dx5CELvdk5TdogqCWkBwDL49us7jy9T9m/FAQ28= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyhoUiS5BAIxXhGYFyHfuqf15uE8zd3Fd6VdkEiaFXInRyr4dBr75K4nj7asSIzYcX8BPqOVRYOB8qLs+Vrn00= X-Received: by 2002:a25:5c4:: with SMTP id 187mr2743486ybf.181.1589414654941; Wed, 13 May 2020 17:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 13 May 2020 17:04:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250173 Archived-At: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > That translates to "either Emacs becomes a Elisp-programmable > web-browser or goes extinct". Indeed hard, but not impossible . HTML rendering was mentioned in this talk at Emacsconf 2019 by Perry E. Metzger: https://media.emacsconf.org/2019/26.html (Discussion on HTML starts around 00:30:00.) He thinks it would have to be based on an external web rendering toolkit (like WebKit). Best regards, Stefan Kangas