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Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:35:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8CE469DC-A264-4E80-8232-0EEFFE8250A3@acm.org> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Sun, 1 Nov 2020 17:37:31 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216899 Archived-At: tags 44273 + wontfix close 44273 thanks Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > 1 nov. 2020 kl. 16.51 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > >> It isn't: that value shows the total disk space allocation, i.e. the >> file sizes are rounded up to the nearest disk block size. > > It's often not even the disk block size (frequently 512 or 1024 byte rega= rdless of the block size), and in any case that rounding does not add any v= aluable information. > >>> but the 'file size' of a subdirectory is practically impossible to inte= rpret in a useful way. >> >> We are not talking about file sizes, we are talking about the "total >> NNN" part. > > The 'file size' of all displayed subdirectory entries are included in tha= t number, which makes it even more difficult to interpret. > > If the size field of each displayed entry could be accurately located and > parsed, then that could be used to compose a more useful and defensible '= total' > number. However this does not appear likely given the variation in locale= s, > implementations and user-supplied options. > > Given the opposition to removing the field, I propose that this bug be cl= osed with wontfix (again). Let's use our time more productively. OK, let's do that.