From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 400@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 12:45:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmm_xszvoR7kynSqQ6d6MQUTvhCe=6yRm4BpnmFgJkoQJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ilxq8dhb.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:00:32 +0300")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> No, you can customize it directly from `customize-group'.
>
> When you do, I'm okay with fully expanding the doc string of the
> variable which you are customizing from the groups buffer. Would that
> solve the issue at hand?
I don't think I understand what this proposal means. Could you perhaps
spell it out more explicitly?
>> But I'm not sure what you mean by "complicating commands" given that the
>> proposal AFAIU is to introduce a specific `customize-describe-variable'
>> bound to `C-h v' that handles also the unlispified names.
>
> How would you implement that without complicating the command? The
> unlispified name is just several English words.
Maybe we are miscommunicating. I mean that if we add a new command
`customize-describe-variable', it won't complicate `describe-variable'.
> Why do we need to make Emacs so much more complex for the benefit of
> an obscure use case, which already has more than one existing
> solution?
I just noticed that we already have such handling of unlispified names
in `C-h S', which is IMO a useful DWIM feature. So this wouldn't be
that different.
>> I believe the activity we are engaged in right now is currently as good
>> as it gets. FWIW, if I had my way, I would for sure close bugs and
>> feature requests far more enthusiastically than is being done now.
>
> Please do, then. IMNSHO, a proposal for a minor feature that exists
> for more than a decade, and was discussed at length without generating
> any reasonable consensus, should be closed as wontfix.
>
>> For example, "wontfix" could also be used meaning: "yes, it's an issue
>> but it's not one we consider worth fixing, if you care enough send a
>> patch and we will reconsider".
>
> Exactly.
This message has been received; I'll try to apply it with the necessary
restraint. I expect that you will let me know if I don't. ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-21 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-12 16:27 bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Drew Adams
2008-06-12 21:19 ` martin rudalics
2008-06-12 21:28 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-06 12:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-06 16:33 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-20 21:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-20 21:27 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-21 3:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 3:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 3:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 5:01 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 16:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22 14:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 17:13 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21 4:26 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-21 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 15:47 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-21 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 2:36 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 15:38 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22 17:22 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21 16:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 17:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 19:45 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-10-22 6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 8:12 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22 10:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 16:56 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-22 3:30 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22 16:51 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-23 18:25 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-06 17:06 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <<007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com>
[not found] ` <<875z8rum4k.fsf@gnus.org>
[not found] ` <<83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-06 17:13 ` Drew Adams
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