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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298150 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > You don=CA=BCt want progressive, you want conservative: No, I just had no idea that this particular rule was contentious: 1. I first learned about the difference between "which" or "that" on this list (or bug-gnu-emacs), and no one protested against the advice given to me at the time. 2. Any reference I could find recommended it (admittedly, I only checked the top 1-2 hits on the web). > if the existing text is not clearly incorrect, don=CA=BCt change it, even > if there=CA=BCs some guide that says it=CA=BCs 'wrong'. You could be a bit more generous here, perhaps. >From the advice given to me, and the sources I found, I drew the conclusion precisely that using "that" is "clearly incorrect". I did not have any reason to think this advice was wrong, or stylistic preference, or personal, or conservative, or anything of the kind. I'm sure there are hundreds or even thousands of these pitfalls in the English language. When people try to improve the documentation, I think we can point out such pitfalls.