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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250549 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > which-key seems to do something similar. I like it very much because > it helps see the rationale behind keybinding. After a while you get to > learn the bindings for the commands you use the most and you can > easily explore new commands. I've used which-key for a couple of years by now. It has turned out to be a huge time-saver and great for discovering new commands (or to remind myself of some less frequently used ones). I believe that we would have much to gain in terms of being new-user friendly by having something like this in core, enabled by default. The package is installable from MELPA, and screenshots are at: https://github.com/justbur/emacs-which-key Best regards, Stefan Kangas