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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297675 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Po Lu> I fall somewhere in between. My hope is that Emacs and major modes will > Po Lu> still support being run without tree-sitter. > > I think that will be true, but suspect the non-tree-sitter experience > will not keep up. Yes, there should be even less motivation to maintain the old code once we have tree-sitter support. Which sounds to me like a good thing, as it frees up time to work on other stuff.