From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:29:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20200426172206.GC18629@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="28474"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 22:01:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSnSu-0007Gj-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:01:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44434 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSnSs-0004a9-JA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSmy4-0002cX-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSmxz-0003Pm-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f173.google.com ([209.85.219.173]:46323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSmxz-0003Lr-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 15:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id b17so8280734ybq.13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ThFZ0HgXhBu7X4qiDSMjL0W0GIcoyz3WRm2tPjRJ+cI=; b=gRqLIbJnnek167iQ8u/VxplwncaBTQpwSCqCGaHPdiE89Ze0hAOwmvCJ0jfzU8NKpG mHndKHWkD1rhlnA7o8QrEWwgRdLTG+Fi20dauwLE3mvkBGbufkuOhO1ePj3343P+HHYZ 1n3qPO/1OaZ81tNLfmu7YFaXtm9McAJ84w5h3WRjchdpt+jtwuPIlxtzYmE8aC5am+Jh DUhiyb9fH9j+Z+QV2FoUlDIoWsmfbt8Kh7axpRlDVAzMc0y0oiiJeKWWhUM1892LDabV lgyeI202bT2PAxdPKBEci7isZ/aaBPxSnWhbbgx5xNXY0MedFjcBz0nRYlDe3kONslYP u0AQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubPMEa6xLLHpSCVDUwo3qswB0gV8WypGvqRKmuA8U8pq6C8YGen ZEo51ZpLJtRaIVo2U668XGh1TLTqyp+Wh9AV5JQtjk/L X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKW56Lx6LaCljfKw0URxKsckp6Ahb6EFa9QQTOmA8o6CEHi0cEKh/EY2NXO8+z6l2cQ5Xrk1Qq6bC5uAAO6hf4= X-Received: by 2002:a25:e907:: with SMTP id n7mr29986181ybd.85.1587929364864; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20200426172206.GC18629@ACM> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.173; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f173.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/26 15:29:25 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247861 Archived-At: Hi Alan, Alan Mackenzie : > You fail to represent my objection, here. Let me restate it. Sorry, that was an oversight on my part. Thanks for restating it. > You do not have to "know" outline-mode to use it. I certainly don't. > It is merely text-mode adorned with a few non-essential commands for > navigating via the outlines. The same is true for org-mode, IMHO. One can happily use org-mode while ignoring all of the more complicated features. The exceptions I can think of seem unlikely to be something we would want to use (customized agenda, tables, babel, etc.). Best regards, Stefan Kangas