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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:00:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmmMK9LChPyraa2eELAaBww14fo75F6hL1aDAc4sMKGt4w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0reh6l6.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> And would the above solution be acceptable to you, Eli?
>
> The "above" being that generic-x will add to the end of
> auto-mode-alist?

Yes.

> You assume that having some font-lock cannot hurt, but that isn't
> necessarily what users will think, because someone might _want_ to
> have certain files edited in Fundamental mode, and adding font-lock
> could therefore be an unexpected annoyance.

Surely anyone who doesn't want font-lock should be expected to just turn
it off?  They could M-x fundamental-mode, M-x font-lock-mode, or just
remove the entry from auto-mode-alist.  They could even `push' a new
element to it saying to use fundamental-mode instead.

Or they should just not have required generic-x to begin with, since its
express purpose is to add font-locking to various assorted files.

I'm also not sure we should ask what some users "might" want, because
that seems to me too broad.  I think that for any idea, you can always
find those one or two users who really like or dislike it.  Isn't it
therefore more productive to ask what *most* current and new users are
likely to want, and try to model our defaults based on that (while of
course doing our best to respect existing use patterns)?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-11 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210209160550.18823.10795@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20210209160551.832FB20AD1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-02-09 17:16   ` master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-09 17:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-09 19:45       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-09 20:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-09 20:47           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-09 21:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-09 21:51               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-09 22:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10  3:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 14:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 15:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 16:44                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-10 17:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 17:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 17:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 17:45                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 18:29                         ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-10 19:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 14:06                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 14:22                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 14:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 15:10                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 14:38                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 15:07                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 17:02                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 17:12                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 18:00                                 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-02-11 19:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 21:28                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-12  6:55                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 13:43                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 14:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 14:46                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 15:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 15:23                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 15:41                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 16:17                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 16:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 17:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 19:22                       ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-09 19:00     ` Stefan Monnier

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