From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20403: Format of NEWS (navigating in it) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:04:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <55375867020000A100019F48@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> <87pniex9a4.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> <2ecef70596fda1bcaaaa31944a01a39a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83eeytnffd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="229382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Phil Sainty , Ulrich Windl , 20403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 31 17:38:50 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQDTF-000xZ5-Se for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:05:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VAIgyOkZRMT16OBqy/qLbu8f4BWiE7Bc9go8Q1g8xhY=; b=kL8YSai0srndul5krTqoA0weGhRoq/LRD3hk3O7kKyGkKvNk1ryS4cWvwesqG6A6bP HgeU0oYSSzEVWiqcYi+S3YrN3BbLy1voAsTGrfwTy4ZD9zeUm4ki7R48/VCv/1pQf3hI dqIQulkqAxe5wtJtLObWb1kAzCz+7+CRPQnhtv7jqoKW5pafWeZ5tRlngdYX5s/4x+e6 KK+OnEqu5JCEG4mdRPdewka8mGn7a3kFJ7MaJRK7dy3aR5n822TwnNb8vnjKWtMrtzmx TkN5y7VbP2ZyrjmiEfy4tz/H7R8QhN6Bx9qrnKxq+7tfIwp0S/fxDdH3Z3JQdsNIiP4T 0ljg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWANzV1VmRRTBTkG8arsyVG3ri8x/QvJ38bynC2DIbwuYzvZTNO nx8u4NVLdkXOWTnX5X4ZvPE+6d3gF0iBD3MjR/U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz1UR9j6n6XsVoDNwkynBKBxltb7q/+2Wm/gH3TP+CteSv5tJigpucCs1qNAA98wK5Tcg2Y4zDewWQyFPFzzkE= X-Received: by 2002:a62:e903:: with SMTP id j3mr7318933pfh.190.1572537905505; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83eeytnffd.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170534 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > The change I'd actually like to see is for NEWS to just be a symlink > > to the appropriate NEWS.xx file, which should exist under that name > > from the outset of development on version xx. > > That'd cause trouble when merging from the release branch. Symlinks > complicate VCS operations in general. Does that hold even if NEWS is a symlink also on the release branch? If not, I'm thinking that the scripts for distributed tar balls could then easily get rid of the symlink and move NEWS in place. > If we want a better NEWS, I'd suggest to introduce a new mode, which > will inherit from Outline mode, but will support some sort of > "include" directive. Then we could have a NEWS file that just > "include"d the versioned files, and Emacs would display their > contents, perhaps given some user command to expand a given version's > news. As a bonus, this would let us have a single NEWS file, from > user's POV, like other (smaller) projects do. That could also work. (FWIW, I also think it would be nice to switch to org-mode.) Best regards, Stefan Kangas