From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 07:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <009901c9421f$5bd0a6b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00ad01c942a0$1f49ca60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87eef9qg81.fsf@gnus.org> <1869622e162377be79e9@heytings.org> <83bladw0dh.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6pxqdeg.fsf@gnus.org> <875z0lqcj4.fsf@gnus.org> <1869622e1602a39e56a6@heytings.org> <87a6pwvcrv.fsf@md5i.com> <1869622e165c625e097b@heytings.org> <874kg4vast.fsf@md5i.com> <1869622e166ad3c37a69@heytings.org> <87k0ozq3n8.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14824"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , jasonspiro4@gmail.com, 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 18 14:23:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6Sp-0003k8-0U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 14:23:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6Sn-0000fD-PG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6S7-0000f6-37 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6S6-0008G0-QP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6S6-00076w-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 12:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.161874854627270 (code B ref 1305); Sun, 18 Apr 2021 12:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2021 12:22:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6RW-00075l-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:22:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:56255) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lY6RU-00075W-Nw for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 08:22:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id s14so11534658pjl.5 for <1305@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 05:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qx0S6YF28uyE1N2ryFAHVoWK0WMBSVOIslxzuUMp1Hw=; b=XK0zrIhbigwTx2niTMKt96FDwIRDZnr6MiU4AbCQZgkfwDQFtMyUluMZoqlUKySJHO evZhpvjsF4XEZ82GZDNJtBxhVcPVTWGLuXU6gqZb+SJ75Z7L/1ZFLxC11isUwZpTOrSH dBpK14DJEiVaqcPj25OVAsOfHkffKzFmZqp0kgtxfGnW3lDrtcQ9+36rpDdrUo8JTDMg CJ8cZmcYNXrXbDYKRCSYV7TwGgbtUyL1116y80KVhJoxcgZeHfdfwTYIJ1GRn2C8n77D lJLtcIJ41WXm5edS1dXYvaYq2s8/rXy8xADo1Uuuy0G2k18t99rZFkIRwmRSiLi3FSU0 CD9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530tLpPDYbClTMX25JOu2MHPMBQaV5wlkZjDkyRTOzlNnEy2MTdv hAiseSiNmBKZjxwzHYjeeLSPXDJENQaQcwLaLPE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxKKSVCYlqwBKviSg7042gYnScuFqfWN1Etkm0Yq7/a9NhtBOQkY/RsP+IrRiAs3JlIxoog0JfbaQinpapSYJw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7788:b029:e9:11:5334 with SMTP id o8-20020a1709027788b02900e900115334mr18221889pll.70.1618748539090; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 05:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 07:22:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k0ozq3n8.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204327 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > So perhaps we should instead discuss whether we should change the > default of `ring-bell-function', and leave `visible-bell' as is? I'm personally fine with that, but I suspect it would be controversial as it would leave us with no way of beeping (visual or otherwise).