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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310173 Archived-At: Danny Freeman writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> Thanks again for being willing to revisit this decision. Emacs 30 is >>> still at least a year away, so I think late spring or early summer >>> 2024 could be a good time to do it. >> >> If this will be a package that's not bundled with Emacs, its >> development and release schedule doesn't have to be synchronized with >> Emacs, unless the package needs some features not currently available >> in Emacs 29 or earlier. But if there's intent to perhaps include this >> package with Emacs, then for that to happen in Emacs 30.1, the >> decision should be earlier, perhaps within the next 4-5 months. >> Because, though the _release_ of Emacs 30 is probably a year or so >> away, we might decide to cut the emacs-30 release branch before the >> end of 2023, and any additional new features after that would be >> harder to get into the release branch. > > Just wanted to respond here to let you know I didn't let this message > get lost in the sea of emails over the last week. > I will be sure to keep this time frame in mind during the decision > making process. Thanks for the update, appreciated. As I've said elsewhere, feel free to reach out if any questions come up during your discussions, either here on the list or directly to me and Eli.