From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Indentation of def* Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <878ryw1ptl.fsf@gnus.org> <87czo2lq0d.fsf@gnus.org> <87v91s876d.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee8gnlar.fsf@gnus.org> <87bl3ea76o.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35828"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Dg8KjbyBUw4PCoXZvcmE=?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 24 16:28:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meeTo-00093D-Gr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 16:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35664 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meeTn-0004Ou-2c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:28:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meeSs-0003SL-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x1034.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034]:36598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meeSq-0008Q1-36; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x1034.google.com with SMTP id v1-20020a17090a088100b001a21156830bso2888779pjc.1; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:27:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JTZzthfhDPIQEKfLnn0AKdtCjtrJqNWdnUdPO3CLUv4=; b=laqHFegkzp6FAoJ8RAWkx9c7wgn83Fb1kiNbblMzJslM7DdqAmSRoKZepbCApFdMdG fb5uSa6x3HV1xDNJEAOCD4aOQ8dV96iXqJdZOAAkz7fIYzAU7ZhzD2MH3GEIGREaQGmL WwrNEM3Nb2q7LZFBUhs/l/M0YvOjrNFP/K8Ex+zuJtZdseu7JXofAk3l2y+CkwHJHubV gZXpTluWupIWpekPyco7avGFRHEbSj4Ca3VD/pJGFz2EI7s1sM485LuJXvpFndcDzglN U0AT3hr5tH3HIXteZS2ON8COEo9xEQ8kNiXod50xOShbUOB8RxGeWvLDonmn08JpSjSj nzMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JTZzthfhDPIQEKfLnn0AKdtCjtrJqNWdnUdPO3CLUv4=; b=4Otyh14zFz1A9MP3/soSkHQsqCxhjJAblEzRqfPsvY1ErQxPewkV9hbZOG1jaDhr+l j4wBsnFu3t2OwcHDJxEDXjEg4/0wDJEvCQyCUD9LcQ5JcnSiF1tkIIpkkB0uhGjkd0Wn ffPwXLph4m2ZnemuZO1/oF+VGz8U/ZvN/0TitX39XZkhSLyvg6xdzeivbGNIV+vcNI/6 3kDWsEOPyhJgFuP67u89TILvpB8x+2K3Caox1BkYX4rgY0Z3EdYwOR/CLW4I6gr0/9vD IB4O3pbRgmgevSsqBWDLhz3InqAHl3JboUZSwzwKIxaOwCzt6Z8WR41rdzkaU88CohIq LuWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530i3pdIj1IqNxJnX2EOz0ZvNmgKNPahB+vOtc7x5mSjv4fmiwht Jpydecbq5wkt7lWT0Rq5EI/a5BWJbtDhR3fRm9o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzZG2Zrr/9saR7xBfOrXyogy7J6MhCBzTCJo6WS6TdlzhMctgIx3YMMGSMR4c8h6yIshfrGWMkwkZ1kLl75d9E= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:d917:: with SMTP id c23mr6818672pjv.133.1635085626263; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:27:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87bl3ea76o.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1034.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277658 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > The introduction of the `with-*' macros, added three decades ago without > any such heuristic, shows that these heuristics aren't necessary (or > useful). And, again, the correct fix for this is to explicitly say what you want with an indent declaration. Unlike a heuristic, this will have no false positives - the user decides.