From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com> Cc: ams@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 09:05:17 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CADwFkmkmP1EmqWb03_z6ToA7W0_KPoHE4KufNftkvKM+F-tuCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <831rntf7xm.fsf@gnu.org> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > Please keep in mind that we don't _own_ these projects, we > just contribute to them. We cannot dictate the project owners how to > manage their projects. I sincerely hope that my previous post in this matter was not seen as dictating. If so, I failed at communicating my ideas quite badly. > But trying to change FSF's mind is a waste of breath. Maybe the FSF will change their mind in the future, maybe not. We are being told it's down to the lawyers. In any case, I'm happy to focus on more productive discussions. Best regards, Stefan Kangas
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2020-04-23 17:47 Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? ndame
2020-04-23 18:50 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 18:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 18:59 ` ndame
2020-04-23 19:02 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 20:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 20:19 ` ndame
2020-04-23 21:57 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-23 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 23:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-23 23:57 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-24 3:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 5:59 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-24 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-24 17:47 ` Phillip Lord
2020-04-25 2:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-26 21:11 ` Phillip Lord
2020-04-26 21:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-25 3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-25 4:22 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-25 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 17:41 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-25 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25 20:21 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-26 21:34 ` Phillip Lord
2020-04-26 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-05 20:27 ` Phillip Lord
2020-05-07 2:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-07 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 7:13 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-07 9:40 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-07 15:18 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 7:17 ` 조성빈
2020-05-07 7:23 ` tomas
2020-05-07 14:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-08 3:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 13:28 ` Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 15:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-08 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 21:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 22:34 ` Amin Bandali
2020-05-09 2:28 ` Fu Yuan
2020-05-09 6:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 9:48 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 9:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 10:10 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 11:35 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 10:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 10:03 ` João Távora
2020-05-10 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-10 13:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 11:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-09 12:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 14:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-09 12:22 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 13:35 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-09 13:51 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 14:17 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 14:17 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-09 14:21 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 14:20 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-09 14:33 ` 조성빈
2020-05-09 15:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 15:35 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-09 16:05 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-05-09 17:35 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-09 17:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 17:49 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-09 17:53 ` João Távora
2020-05-11 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 14:35 ` 조성빈
2020-05-09 14:56 ` Fu Yuan
2020-05-16 14:11 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-10 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 14:04 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-17 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-19 3:53 ` Amazon Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 15:22 ` Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 15:25 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 15:34 ` PL support (was: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 15:39 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-09 15:45 ` PL support David Engster
2020-05-09 15:52 ` PL support (was: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 15:57 ` PL support Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 15:57 ` PL support (was: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs) João Távora
2020-05-09 15:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 16:08 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 16:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 20:08 ` PL support Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 15:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 16:30 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 17:08 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 17:36 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 17:58 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-09 18:19 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:56 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 19:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 17:58 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 19:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-09 20:07 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 21:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 22:23 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-09 23:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 4:08 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-10 13:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 13:50 ` João Távora
2020-05-10 16:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 17:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 2:49 ` 조성빈
2020-05-11 5:35 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-11 20:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-11 20:26 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-11 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 21:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-12 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-12 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 18:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-12 18:31 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-12 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-14 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 3:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 3:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 14:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 16:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 18:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-14 13:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-14 17:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-14 17:45 ` João Távora
2020-05-15 3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 15:34 ` A new archive, halfway between GNU ELPA and MELPA Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-18 5:47 ` PL support chad
2020-05-14 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 3:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 4:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-12 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 18:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-12 14:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-13 3:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 10:02 ` 조성빈
2020-05-13 12:28 ` tomas
2020-05-14 1:31 ` João Távora
2020-05-13 13:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-14 5:10 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 18:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 18:25 ` Project.el, xref.el and eldoc.el in GNU ELPA (Was: PL support) João Távora
2020-05-11 18:43 ` PL support Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 19:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 19:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-11 20:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 20:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-12 2:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 13:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-12 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 18:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-13 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 5:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 20:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-12 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 18:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:47 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 19:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 19:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 19:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 19:49 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 20:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 20:25 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 22:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 3:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 4:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 11:07 ` João Távora
2020-05-11 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 3:22 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-11 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 23:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-12 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 0:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 21:05 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:55 ` Sébastien G
2020-05-09 19:26 ` Sébastien G
2020-05-09 20:25 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-09 23:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 3:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-12 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 4:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-14 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 3:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 13:38 ` Fu Yuan
2020-05-11 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 19:07 ` T.V Raman
2020-05-12 0:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-12 3:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 3:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-13 3:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 16:06 ` Sébastien Gendre
2020-05-14 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 18:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 18:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:41 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 19:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 19:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-16 12:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 20:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 23:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 12:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 13:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 15:55 ` PL support (was: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs) 조성빈
2020-05-09 16:02 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:28 ` PL support Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 15:41 ` Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 15:52 ` João Távora
2020-05-10 13:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 14:08 ` João Távora
2020-05-10 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 17:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-10 17:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 18:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 1:17 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-10 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-09 15:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 16:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:33 ` David Engster
2020-05-11 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-11 20:26 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-12 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-05-12 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 18:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-14 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-11 21:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-05-18 5:56 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-18 11:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-05-18 17:04 ` João Távora
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2020-05-19 5:56 ` Philippe Vaucher
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2020-05-19 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-05-19 10:22 ` Philippe Vaucher
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2020-05-20 6:19 ` Philippe Vaucher
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2020-05-26 5:42 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-26 7:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-06-20 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-18 16:59 ` João Távora
2020-05-19 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19 4:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-19 5:28 ` Philippe Vaucher
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2020-05-08 18:01 ` Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Phillip Lord
2020-05-08 18:47 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-09 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-10 2:30 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-09 13:33 ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-11 18:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-11 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 19:13 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-11 19:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-11 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 19:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-12 2:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12 2:46 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
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2020-05-13 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12 20:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-13 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 4:22 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-13 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 15:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-13 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 16:55 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-13 17:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-14 5:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 14:48 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-13 15:01 ` Copyright assignment checking by PGP-signed commits (WAS: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs?) Noam Postavsky
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2020-05-12 3:17 ` Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Richard Stallman
2020-04-25 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25 3:55 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-04-26 3:25 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25 7:56 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-25 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-26 6:06 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-27 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27 4:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-28 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 21:46 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-23 23:50 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-24 8:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-24 9:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-25 2:15 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-26 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 19:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-07 17:42 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 19:54 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-07 20:28 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 6:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 16:28 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 19:35 ` ndame
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2020-04-23 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-04-24 5:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 12:50 ` Stefan Monnier
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