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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: user-directory: New library to find user {conf, data, state, ...} files
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 11:31:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmkY=uk8EtFqLof2iV1h+t48qQcC3QyZ7_dPMvP+N0dYhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnCRScoSa+TnFVqoge=Z-pex=JHXFUQX+dMSB42a66PWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:

> I hacked something quick together and pushed it to
> features/user-directory, mostly so that we can decide on the basic API.
> It needs more work, but the interface should hopefully be clear.
>
> The one I propose is:
>
>     (user-directory 'cache)
>     => "/home/skangas/.cache"
>
>     (user-file 'cache "foo")
>     => "/home/skangas/.cache/foo"
>
> There's also a defcustom `user-directory-alist' for overrides:
>
>     (let ((user-directory-alist '((downloads "/foo"))))
>       (user-directory 'downloads))
>     => "/foo"

OK, I think this is ready for merging to master so that we can start
experimenting with it, obviously based on the assumption that this is
tentative and open for change.  I guess someone will want to look at
adding MS-Windows support to this, for example.

Note that on GNU/Linux, even if the user has their configuration file in
"~/.emacs.d/", the library currently prefers the XDG paths here:

    (user-file 'cache "image-dired")
    => "~/.cache/emacs/image-dired"

This is a feature.  If users prefer not to have a clean "~/.emacs.d/"
they can say:

    (setq user-directory-alist '((cache . user-emacs-directory)
                                 (config . user-emacs-directory)
                                 (data . user-emacs-directory)
                                 (runtime . user-emacs-directory)
                                 (state . user-emacs-directory)))

I also think we should consider adding some heuristics to `user-file' to
be able to find the old name if it exists.  I considered some
alternatives, but I thought I'd see what people think first.  Currently,
application code would say:

    (user-file 'cache "image-dired"
                       (locate-user-emacs-file "image-dired"))

Which could, if we want to be smart, be simplified to:

    (user-file 'cache "image-dired" "image-dired")

Or even:

    (user-file 'cache "image-dired")

Unfortunately, in this case I think it's harder to be smart:

    (user-file 'data "bookmarks"
                     (locate-user-emacs-file "bookmarks" ".emacs.bmk"))

But perhaps we can think of something even for that.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-07 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-25 13:14 master f8fed41 2/3: image-dired: Improve XDG compliance Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 16:14 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-25 16:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-25 17:52     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-25 18:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 10:24         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 13:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 13:28             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 14:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:35                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-27  4:37                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-26 16:47         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-26  2:07       ` Po Lu
2021-10-25 17:48   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-25 17:55     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-25 17:58       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-25 18:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-26 10:25 ` Default for image-dired-main-image-directory Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 13:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 13:42     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-26 14:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:22         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 14:58         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-26 16:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 13:04             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-27 13:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 13:42                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-27 16:53                   ` XDG config dir [Was: Re: Default for image-dired-main-image-directory] Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-28  3:45                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-28  3:48                     ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-28  5:57                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-28  6:46                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 14:14     ` Default for image-dired-main-image-directory Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 15:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:01 ` master f8fed41 2/3: image-dired: Improve XDG compliance Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:24     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 16:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 16:13         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 16:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 14:45     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-26 16:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 16:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 19:17         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-26 19:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-06  1:38           ` user-directory: New library to find user {conf,data,state,...} files Stefan Kangas
2021-11-06  1:52             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-06  2:56               ` user-directory: New library to find user {conf, data, state, ...} files Stefan Kangas
2021-11-06  3:11             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-07 19:31             ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-11-07 19:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08  3:04                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-08 12:19                   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-08 13:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08 15:26                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-08 18:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-09  7:05                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-09 18:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-09 20:38                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-11 10:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-08  3:35               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-08 15:40                 ` Stefan Kangas

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