From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: 48023@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#48023: download.html has better instructions for non-free systems
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:30:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmkWc8A_HdpaEeLE9pJPZGshaqjL6d2k0wa7e8zb2ao=3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1lat4a-0007sO-1g@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> But there is a wrinkle to deal with.
>
> > - Debian/Ubuntu
> > - Fedora/RedHat
> > - Arch Linux
> > - OpenSUSE
> > - GNU Guix
>
> Of all those, the only one that is a free distro is GNU Guix.
> The others are nonfree distros that we don't want to promote.
I don't understand this given that we are fine with mentioning Windows
and macOS.
> We could describe Trisquel, and say that the nonfree distros Debian
> and Ubuntu are similar.
>
> We could describe Parabola and Hyperbola, and say that Arch GNU/Linux
> is similar.
>
> Are there free distros (see https://gnu.org/distros/) that are
> lile Fedora and OpenSUSE?
Is the below acceptable?
In comparison to the old page, it actively discourages using
distributions that GNU and/or FSF thinks are "non-free". IOW, if I
agreed with your position, I think I would be more happy with it. But
of course you would know better than me.
(The old page simply dodged the issue, which seems less than ideal.)
--- download.html.~1.23.~ 2021-04-26 03:34:59.821526101 +0200
+++ download.html 2021-04-26 23:14:32.913860136 +0200
@@ -66,6 +66,74 @@
way to install Emacs unless you always want to use the
latest release.</p>
+ <p>Some GNU/Linux distributions recommend nonfree
+ software. We cannot recommend their use, see
+ <a
href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html">
+ Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems</a>.</p>
+
+
+ <!-- NOTE: We want to be very restrictive with adding more
+ distributions to this list, as it is a maintenance burden.
+ The distributions below can be removed at any time. -->
+
+
+ <h3>Debian and derivatives</h3>
+
+ <p>
+ We do not recommend using this GNU/Linux
distribution and some of
+ its derivatives (including Ubuntu and Linux
Mint), as they
+ <a
href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html">
+ include nonfree components and firmware</a>.
+
+ We recommend using the Debian-based and fully free
+ <a href="https://trisquel.info/">Trisquel GNU/Linux</a>
+ instead.
+ </p>
+
+ <pre>sudo apt-get install emacs</pre>
+
+
+ <h3>Arch</h3>
+
+ <p>
+ We do not recommend using this GNU/Linux
distribution, as it
+ <a
href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html">
+ includes nonfree components and firmware</a>.
+
+ We recommend using the Arch-based and fully free
+ <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/">Hyperbola
GNU/Linux-libre</a> or
+ <a href="https://www.parabola.nu/">Parabola
GNU/Linux-libre</a>
+ instead.
+ </p>
+
+ <pre>sudo pacman -S emacs</pre>
+
+
+ <h3>Fedora and Redhat</h3>
+
+ <p>We do not recommend using these GNU/Linux
distributions, as they
+ <a
href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html">
+ include nonfree components and firmware</a>.</p>
+
+ <pre>sudo dnf install emacs</pre>
+
+
+ <h3>OpenSUSE</h3>
+
+ <p>We do not recommend using this GNU/Linux
distribution, as it
+ <a
href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html">
+ includes nonfree components and firmware</a>.</p>
+
+ <pre>sudo zypper install emacs</pre>
+
+
+ <h3>GNU Guix</h3>
+
+ <pre>guix package -i emacs</pre>
+
+
+ <h3>Building from source</h3>
+
<p>You can download GNU Emacs releases from a
<a
href="http://ftpmirror.gnu.org/emacs/">nearby GNU mirror</a>;
or if automatic redirection does not work see
the list of
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-26 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-26 1:49 bug#48023: download.html has better instructions for non-free systems Stefan Kangas
2021-04-26 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-04-26 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-26 22:30 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-04-27 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2021-04-27 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-27 13:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-04-28 10:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 10:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-28 13:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 3:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-04-26 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 20:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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