From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:02:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <875z8rum4k.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35658"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 400@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 23:03:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdIjx-000957-R4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:02:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 17:39:00 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217719 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't see how using "C-h v" in that case is a reasonable use case, > since the documentation is displayed right below the name of the > option. > > We could perhaps have a help command that recognized names of > variables in this format, but then it shouldn't be "C-h v", IMO, since > that command talks about _variables_, whereas a name such as "Info > Hide Note References" is not a variable name. I appreciate the merits of this point of view, but at the same time it would be kind of nice with some DWIM here. I for one have gone through switching unlispify off, because it is faster to hit `C-h v RET' (firmly committed to muscle memory) than fiddling around with however it is you expand the documentation in a customize buffer; I guess the fastest way is C-a RET TAB TAB TAB (until point lands on "More") and then RET again. But then I switched back again, because with the unlispified names I found it easier to skim the buffer and quickly find what I want... So I think I would actually appreciate this feature, in particular if it was on `C-h v' because that's what I use everywhere else for variables. Even if it could perhaps be considered a bit "unclean".